I just want say a week's worth of human cooking compressed into a pellet
Meal replacement powders.
All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes
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Re: All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes
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Sounds like the flavour colour wheel.
Sounds like the flavour roulette wheel.
This is exactly like when Skippy is trying to work out the flavor profiles for the kinds of mush that monkeys will find most appealing. Yes, we know that "chocolate peanut butter bananas" is the true king of flavor latent space, but even a slight error in floating point precision could stick you with "cantor's peach butt nut abalone".
Re: All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes
#123The work is very interesting. The title is misleading. A better title would be: "all of human ingredients compressed into 1,800 primitives" There is little to substantively nothing about the actual cooking: preparation methods, proportions, etc. But the idea that tomato goes well with beef the whole world over is very interesting and useful for creating flavors that will go together, perhaps surprisingly. It will be…
It's also based on 11 sources across just 7 of the 7,150 human languages (English, Chinese, Russian, Vietnamese, Spanish, Turkish, Indonesian, German, and Indian-English)
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#124Neat. I'm trying to compress recipes into little schematics https://leontrolski.github.io/recipes.html
Cute! I have a lot of handwritten notes. I've been waiting for a competent "paper scan to SVG" workflow to be developed so I can digitalize them properly. I think your project would also greatly benefit from something like that
Re: All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes
#125I saw this on X/Twitter. I do not believe that human cooking, and all of its techniques and ingredients and the various ways that things can be prepared in different cultural contexts can be compressed in to 2 megabytes. It is sort of like saying here is a 1GB model that can do tool calling and coding and then you try it out and it barely functions. Yes, it technically is a 1GB coding model, but it isn't a good one.
The space of palatable human food is small. There are only a few thousand ingredients and a few thousand preparation techniques. This could easily be compressed at high fidelity into a model.
I say prove it. If it was a coding bot we would see some metrics on how it did. Have this thing produce a bunch of on demand recipes and judge it against human chefs. Have the people preparing the food cook according to its descriptions faithfully as either robots or non-cooking people so that their knowledge doesn't leak into the preparation. And then let's judge those recipes.
IF you need experienced culturally knowledgeable chefs to prepare the food for it to work, then you haven't encoded all the techniques, just crib notes.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a wonderful book that explores this idea of an atlas of flavours that work together. The flavor bible. I can assure you that it does not contain 1800 ingredients in all of there combinations, but it does a remarkable job of covering a widely used selection of herbs spices vegetables and meats. I doubt a compressed version of the text would even be very large. The trouble I find with LLM generated recipes is th…
Sounds like The Flavor Bible - it's a great reference book to find pairings of ingredients.
> Sounds like The Flavor Bible - it's a great reference book to find pairings of ingredients.
I think fpshero says exactly that (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48294459):
> I have a wonderful book that explores this idea of an atlas of flavours that work together.
> The flavor bible.
Re: All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Leaving out Indian, Southeast Asian and Arab cuisine means this is nigh useless.
There are 2,000+ varieties of mangoes alone. You could literally end up with a larger file using only mangoes.
Was going to give the same example with chili peppers. Tons of varieties and not exactly interchangeable
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#128FWIW all of https://publicdomainrecipes.com is available as a single 22MiB file at https://browse.library.kiwix.org/viewer#publicdomainrecipes.... from https://browse.library.kiwix.org and you can submit more recipes at https://github.com/ronaldl29/public-domain-recipes
Re: All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes
#129All of human cooking
With no African recipe.