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Ferrari shares fall after launch of first EV as Jony Ive design proves divisive

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Re: Ferrari shares fall after launch of first EV as Jony Ive design proves divisive

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amusingly, the eGolf that VW had to build as a compliance car is one of the better choices for “just give me a fucking car that’s an EV”. It’s literally the MK7 Golf R, but with AWD removed and a battery instead of an engine. Physical interior throughout with CarPlay/AA, all aftermarket parts for the MK7 work with it. Drives like a go-kart on the streets. Super fun as a second or third grocery getter if you can find…

It's in the same class as the Mini Cooper EV. Good car with a battery, not a good EV though.

In case it wasn't clear from my comment, I don't really care about the EV part: I view them as secondary cars for around town. They do not need ~300 miles of range or whatever.

Re: Ferrari shares fall after launch of first EV as Jony Ive design proves divisive

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post #102
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amusingly, the eGolf that VW had to build as a compliance car is one of the better choices for “just give me a fucking car that’s an EV”. It’s literally the MK7 Golf R, but with AWD removed and a battery instead of an engine. Physical interior throughout with CarPlay/AA, all aftermarket parts for the MK7 work with it. Drives like a go-kart on the streets. Super fun as a second or third grocery getter if you can find…

$30k (new in 2019) for an EV with a 125 mile range and 134 hp doesn't sound remotely competitive.

In case it wasn't clear from my comment, I don't really care about the EV part: I view them as secondary cars for around town. They do not need ~300 miles of range or whatever.

Nobody needs more than 134hp on the street with instant torque, and nobody needs more than 125 miles of range around town. The driving dynamic of the car is better than any modern EV. That's the entire point.

Re: Ferrari shares fall after launch of first EV as Jony Ive design proves divisive

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There is some chat as to why it looks like that shape below [0]. In short no engine space constraint & aiming for efficiency rather than downforce. https://youtu.be/K-o0r2zSgCE?t=2162

This is the weird thing tho. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is looking at owning a Ferrari for “efficiency”. They are similar to Porsche where you’re looking for a driving feel, or for the badge. Ferrari releasing this feels like saying “our ethos does not matter”. This thing should’ve been a sports car through and through, efficiency be damned.

Partial. I suspect the unspoken issue here is that in the context of EVs efficiency doesn't translate to higher price at pump (which would be fine for rich people) but rather range anxiety & severe impracticality.
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