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3D printing is still very much an enthusiast, techie driver market. The degree to which Bambu has done their best to alienate that market is beyond astonishing.

I really like Bambu's machines. Their quality and prices are both excellent. But they no longer have an edge feature and speed wise. I can get pretty much the same product from Creality, so why would I even entertain a user-hostile company like Bambu?

Re: BambuStudio has been violating PrusaSlicer AGPL license since their fork

#122

3D printing is still very much an enthusiast, techie driver market. The degree to which Bambu has done their best to alienate that market is beyond astonishing. I really like Bambu's machines. Their quality and prices are both excellent. But they no longer have an edge feature and speed wise. I can get pretty much the same product from Creality, so why would I even entertain a user-hostile company like Bambu?

Anecdotally, I'm in the market for a new 3d printer and have been heavily considering a few Bambu models. All this drama, of which I'm not well informed on, is making me consider other vendors.

Without these issues, I would have already bought a Bambu printer. Now, I'm investigating all competitors.

Re: BambuStudio has been violating PrusaSlicer AGPL license since their fork

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you’re espousing here is just basic moral relativism. Except what you’re getting wrong is that US companies break IP law constantly. It turns out companies aren’t moral actors, they’ll do whatever. The GPL is a business opportunity here too. It’s just that in the US/canada/eu the legal side is more enforceable. Don’t give a f about the GPL in china -> successful biz. Don’t give an f about the GPL in the US -> su…

Fundamentally I agree with you. I'd love to see stats showing a material impact to their sales but I'm not optimistic. If I were to guess I'd reckon their sales are still climbing.

It would be nice if they felt the push back but sometimes it's just nice to see when some calls out a dick move.

Re: BambuStudio has been violating PrusaSlicer AGPL license since their fork

#125

3D printing is still very much an enthusiast, techie driver market. The degree to which Bambu has done their best to alienate that market is beyond astonishing. I really like Bambu's machines. Their quality and prices are both excellent. But they no longer have an edge feature and speed wise. I can get pretty much the same product from Creality, so why would I even entertain a user-hostile company like Bambu?

Anecdotally, I'm in the market for a new 3d printer and have been heavily considering a few Bambu models. All this drama, of which I'm not well informed on, is making me consider other vendors. Without these issues, I would have already bought a Bambu printer. Now, I'm investigating all competitors.

You'd do well to avoid them if you want to own your printer forever. I have 3 different Prusa printers, few of which have gone through several upgrades, and I love working with them (and not on them, as I'mnot the tinkering type).

Re: BambuStudio has been violating PrusaSlicer AGPL license since their fork

#126

Where is the lawyer involvement? Why has no TRO been filed to prevent Bambu from selling in the US? This is a problem with a legal solution, yet we collectively just wring our hands and wish for a technological solution.

Lawsuits need standing. Someone harmed has to sue.

Re: BambuStudio has been violating PrusaSlicer AGPL license since their fork

#127

3D printing is still very much an enthusiast, techie driver market. The degree to which Bambu has done their best to alienate that market is beyond astonishing. I really like Bambu's machines. Their quality and prices are both excellent. But they no longer have an edge feature and speed wise. I can get pretty much the same product from Creality, so why would I even entertain a user-hostile company like Bambu?

Do other budget brands really print as well as Bambu out of the box with no tinkering?

Going from an old Prusa MK3s to a Bambu P1P+AMS was a huge upgrade. Mostly speed, reliable bed adhesion, and easy material swapping, it’s made printing as a hobby much more fun, and at this point I’m more interested in designing things to print than tinkering with the printer itself.

I’ve followed the online drama, but so far, not regretting the purchase. Would avoid Bambu if printing comercially/at scale, but the ‘user hostility’ doesn’t have much real world impact on hobbyists with 1-2 printers. Yet.

Re: BambuStudio has been violating PrusaSlicer AGPL license since their fork

#128

3D printing is still very much an enthusiast, techie driver market. The degree to which Bambu has done their best to alienate that market is beyond astonishing. I really like Bambu's machines. Their quality and prices are both excellent. But they no longer have an edge feature and speed wise. I can get pretty much the same product from Creality, so why would I even entertain a user-hostile company like Bambu?

I think if anyone can get away with it, it's bambu though. They are the apple of the 3d printing market and most people don't care. They just hit print and hope it works

Re: BambuStudio has been violating PrusaSlicer AGPL license since their fork

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I can't help but wonder how could, Bambulabs or the Chinese government, actually mine that data? In my mind, 3D models fail into two categories: artistic and utilitarian, though there's a continuum between those two. With the artistic side, the Chinese government could find itself in possession of tons and tons of Western miniatures. With the utilitarian side, they will find themselves in possession of lots and lots…

> Of course, there's no telling if the next step of boiling the frog is to require users to attach metadata to their models before the printer prints them... Custom firmware is always a thing for these printers.

You can still lock things in the microcontrollers with future updates, sadly. Those fuses can be burned at any time. Unburning them, not so much…

Re: BambuStudio has been violating PrusaSlicer AGPL license since their fork

#130

3D printing is still very much an enthusiast, techie driver market. The degree to which Bambu has done their best to alienate that market is beyond astonishing. I really like Bambu's machines. Their quality and prices are both excellent. But they no longer have an edge feature and speed wise. I can get pretty much the same product from Creality, so why would I even entertain a user-hostile company like Bambu?

Do other budget brands really print as well as Bambu out of the box with no tinkering? Going from an old Prusa MK3s to a Bambu P1P+AMS was a huge upgrade. Mostly speed, reliable bed adhesion, and easy material swapping, it’s made printing as a hobby much more fun, and at this point I’m more interested in designing things to print than tinkering with the printer itself. I’ve followed the online drama, but so far, not…

> Do other budget brands really print as well as Bambu out of the box with no tinkering?

Yes, everyone has caught up to Bambu these days. I have personal experience with Creality and Anycubic.

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