Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

torrentfreak.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

121–130 of 130 posts

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#121

Post by tempaccountabgd »

picsao wrote: post #16
chadgpt3 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't sue a court in a court for doing court stuff. Courts are superuser. They can do anything they want to. The recourse is vetting people before they become judges.

This seems dysfunctional and a API for institutional subversion. If you can subvert the machinery that creates judges, you can basically take over a democracy without having any way to fix that except for institutional repair and waiting out the working lifespan of judges (which can be 1.5 generations)

[dead]

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#122

Post by happymellon »

embedding-shape wrote: post #48
isodev wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope there is a secondary effect to all this - that websites, operators and web apps look for alternatives instead of always using Cloudflare (who themselves are a kind of LaLiga just in a different vertical).

The blocks been going on for around/almost two years now, the ones who cared about remaining online for their users during the La Liga matches they do the blocks (not all of them anymore it seems) already moved, the only ones left on Cloudflare seems to be some people that refuse to move away regardless of how their users are impacted by it. I think it's the same group of people who experience AWS downtime while havi…

> I think it's the same group of people who experience AWS downtime while having all their infrastructure there

Weird flex.

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#123

Post by Suromile »

nekzn wrote: post #51
embedding-shape wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having gone through the same tiring conversation with 80% of all the maschistas around me in real-life, then also hearing about it on TV every single day when a new woman gets murded by her ex/husband/boyfriend, I rather not bring in the same off-topic conversation into HN. It's sunny today, finally getting a bit warmer today and the chiringuito just opened, I'm gonna go have some croquetas de pollo and enjoy the day…

I was expecting a better argument than calling me a misogynist and bragging about living next to the beach, but hey what do I know.

Welcome to 2026, where misandrists have convinced lawmakers the world over that every male above the age of 12 spends every waking moment fantasizing about raping and murdering women.

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#124

Post by fsflover »

fsflover wrote: post #99
iLoveOncall wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish people who state "you have to fight" also said how. The extreme majority of people has no fucking clue about how to act about anything, and it's definitely the biggest blocker.

One way is to support https://eff.org or https://edri.org .

Why downvotes? Here is a relevant link: https://www.eff.org/issues/dmca

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#125

Post by rvnx »

fsflover wrote: post #124
fsflover wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One way is to support https://eff.org or https://edri.org .

Why downvotes? Here is a relevant link: https://www.eff.org/issues/dmca

LaLiga is relying mostly on EU Copyright Directive and DSA to enforce their blocking rights.

EFF is a Californian organization holding a big treasure chest (60M USD), in surplus of donations, that does not operate in European courts.

In terms of donations, even if you would give them 50'000 USD it's a rounding error in their budget (just put it on the pile).

For example Xnet can actually go to Spanish courts but they have less money in total in their bank than the average salary of a random EFF employee.

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#126

Post by fsflover »

rvnx wrote: post #125
fsflover wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why downvotes? Here is a relevant link: https://www.eff.org/issues/dmca

LaLiga is relying mostly on EU Copyright Directive and DSA to enforce their blocking rights. EFF is a Californian organization holding a big treasure chest (60M USD), in surplus of donations, that does not operate in European courts. In terms of donations, even if you would give them 50'000 USD it's a rounding error in their budget (just put it on the pile). For example Xnet can actually go to Spanish courts but they…

The problem does affect the US, which is why I mentioned a US organization. I don't see how the surplus affects anything. I don't believe they have enough funds for everything.

EDRi is relevant for EU: https://edri.org/our-work/edrigramnumber2-10italy/

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#128

Post by tancop »

nubinetwork wrote: post #34
swiftcoder wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There wouldn't be so much of a forced monopoly if more people would stop watching games I don't think giving up one's national sport is really the right response here. We should absolutely be able to enjoy sports without bowing down to regulatory-capture-by-former-government-ministers

> We should absolutely be able to enjoy sports without bowing down to regulatory-capture-by-former-government-ministers You're right, you absolutely should... but the only way to tell them that you don't like their policies is to stop giving them your money.

and how do you stop giving them money? you watch it on a pirate site where none of the revenue is going to the league. not watching it at all is just performative sacrifice

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#129

Post by Ylpertnodi »

regexorcist wrote: post #92
lifestyleguru wrote: post #35

Fuck European football and everything about it. Hopefully this year's world cup will be absolute unpopular failure.

No, fuck LaLiga. UCL always delivers for us fans and so does the world cup. It'll be extremely popular as always, for good reason.

$3k to go to the WC to see portugal play. $799 to see portugal. Throw in ice, trump, border controls, socials exposed, the fifa peace prize...

Who's going?

Re: Spanish court declines to fine NordVPN over LaLiga piracy blocking order

#130

Post by 40four »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #40
thomastraum wrote: post #23

fantastic work. PSA: if you still think its not the time to fight for your rights for the status quo in privacy you will come to regret it. If you are the type of person who reads this type of news and thinks: "cool the system is working, it'll sort itself out" you will come to regret it. you will need to become more active or it will be taken away

I wish people who state "you have to fight" also said how. The extreme majority of people has no fucking clue about how to act about anything, and it's definitely the biggest blocker.

I’ve been thinking about exactly this for a while. Non-technical people just don’t understand all the moving pieces, let alone what action they should take. I agree with you, we need more conversation and guidance detailing what easy steps people can take to harden their security posture, and why that matters.
Post reply on HN