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Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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It sounds like an attention thing. Attention is magic stuff. Putting it on part of your body can make it better. Withdrawing it can make it worse. I suspect that much disease stems from such neglect. I used to have a chronically stuffed nose. Then I started doing a kind of meditation where I put my attention upon my nose. My nose opened up and I almost never get a stuffed nose anymore.

Are you saying that, in fact, attention is all you need?

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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I don’t mean to be rude, but what kind of personal reasons might stop a person from breathing into a straw at night

They objected to the Paper Straw Mandate

Aluminum straw is the clear and superior alternative

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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A friend of mine started "blowing air into water with an straw" (making bubbles) very seriously. I was very skeptical to say the least; but after a couple of months the effects have been very eye opening. Not only it has helped sleep apnea and snoring but also helped with reducing their weight. They had an online group and most participants reported the same. The wight loss was reverted when they stopped for some per…

Someone really needs to properly do the science on this I (presumably like the majority) assumed that sleep apnea was at least partially caused by weight gain, but if there is weight gain caused by sleep apnea it’s going to give doctors some new tools

The idea people aren't doing 'proper science' on this is a spectacular level of oblivious. There's nothing in here that I haven't at some point had a discussion about with my sleep doc in the last 20 years (well, not specifically a didgeridoo, but circular breathing and other types of breath exercises, including 'straw breathing'). Yes, some people do loose weight when they get their apnea under control, among other health benefits. That also is not new, and it's not some sort of miracle insight that noone has considered.

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Just learned from comments here it's called "circular breathing"!

Just read how this works and tried it. A bit tricky at first but actually quite easy once you get the hang of it. And it's kind of a fun exercise. Now I'm wondering if I should get a Didgeridoo too.

circular breathing is useful for other instruments as well, though it's not typically a technique that's necessary until you get to fairly high levels.

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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I saw a documentary where a vocal coach used a similar technique to help metal singers sing in a way that didn't destroy their throat and vocal chords

I do death metal growling at karaoke sometimes. It makes a nice change after the umpteenth Abba or Pink Pony Club rendition. There is a technique to it. You have to sing from the chest not the throat.

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Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Someone really needs to properly do the science on this I (presumably like the majority) assumed that sleep apnea was at least partially caused by weight gain, but if there is weight gain caused by sleep apnea it’s going to give doctors some new tools

There is plenty of proper science on this. Weight gain does not cause obstructive sleep apnea until you get into extremes (e.g. huge necked bodybuilders or people with so much fat on their chest that they physically struggle to move it to breathe). Sleep apnea makes it harder to lose weight and easier to gain weight. Having sleep apnea and being heavier can make sleep apnea worse. Losing weight quickly can make sleep…

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Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Oh not this nonsense again. Plenty of "wafer thin" people have obstructive sleep apnea. There are lots of factors that contribute to sleep apnea, from big tonsils to hormones to muscle tone to tongue size. Weight is not the issue.

Skinny person with OSA here and three corrective jaw surgeries from world-expert sleep surgeons. You won't believe how many GPs told me to my face that it was impossible for me to have sleep apnea because I'm thin. Then the sleep study results came in with 30 AHI (severe range).

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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So, if you breathe in an intensive manner for a few minutes, oxygen percentage in the blood won't change?

One a friend and I hooked ourselves up to continuous pulse oximetry and had a contest to get the lowest recorded oxygen level. We tried everything we could think of, from just holding our breath to end-expiratory breath holding to hyperventilating to clear O2 (I used to do some recreational free-diving) beforehand to exercising (jumping jacks)... Neither of us could get it below 98%, and this was at a mile of elevati…

Can’t claim to know for sure, but I’d assume some kind of measurement limitations: the resolution and upper/lower limits of pulse ox are probably calibrated to some medical need, not to detect changes beyond what’s medically necessary
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