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USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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It will only get worse for the next generation as the aquafers are continuing to be depleted.

Is anyone actually irrigating wheat?? Edit: I'm being downvoted because someone found a source that says 3% of winter wheat in Montana is irrigated. My point still stands, while yes some percentage of wheat is irrigated it is extremely uncommon.

https://kswheat.com/david-leonard-put-wheat-under-pivot-win-...

> Leonard’s operation near Goodland is a diversified operation with a mix of dryland and irrigated acres in addition to a small cow-calf operation. Encouraged by his PlainsGold seed rep, he entered the yield contest for the first time in 2022. His entry came from a field planted to certified seed wheat that followed pinto beans, which provided some moisture profile.

> “Our soil will hold about 1.8 inches of moisture per foot,” Leonard said. “So, if we have six feet of subsoil, we have some gas in the tank. We had some of that last year, but we don’t have that this year.”

> From planting until harvest, the field only received 6.2 inches of moisture, so Leonard pumped another 10 inches of water to help the wheat crop along. He also furtigated nitrogen through the pivot to further boost yields. The widespread drought conditions last growing season meant it was too dry for even the weeds to grow, so he did not apply any fungicide.

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> The four major grain crops grown in Kansas (corn, soybean, grain sorghum and wheat) have experienced upward trends in yield (Figures 7 – 10). Corn yield has had the most dramatic increase for both irrigated and dryland production with irrigated corn yield improvements of approximately 2.5 bushels/acre for the each year of record, This result is more than twice the dryland rate of 1.1 bushels/acre. The average irrigated yield increase is 0.59 bu/ac, 0.60 bu/ac and 0.31 bu/ac for soybean, grain sorghum and wheat respectfully. Irrigated yield increase trends have been larger than for dryland.

Page 8 figure 10 shows the yield trends for wheat - both irrigated and dryland since 1974.

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Western hay prices are as much as double what they were last year for feed: https://www.reddit.com/r/homestead/comments/1ta64d0/breaking...

I'd take that source with a grain of salt. The website's domain was created 3 months ago (site doesn't even have any entries in the wayback machine) and supposedly pulls from USDA AMS data but when I looked at reports[1][2] I didn't see double prices compared to last year. Some prices even looked lower? But it was hard to make comparisons because of report structure and data disparity. [1] CA Hay: https://mymarketnew…

You may be right, but I think we'd need to wait for another report or two to be sure because the reddit post is arguing that this happened in the last few days and their statement

> Last week I posted about how hay buyers and sellers were frozen, waiting for each other to move first. Here's an update....

looks generally correct. On the 2025 CO hay report you can see that last year in this period, there were 22k tons sold. This year, there were 9750 tons sold. Last year[1], the week before (4/28/2025) there were only 400 tons reported sold.

Seems like there is an annual inflection point that causes prices to settle, and it wouldn't be in the report linked just yet. Meanwhile, if you do a news search for hay prices, you can see plenty of articles from different sources discussing how the drought is driving prices higher, so it appears to be at least a common discussion point.

[1] CO Hay 2025: https://esmis.nal.usda.gov/sites/default/release-files/r207t...

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Finally waking up the US that oil dependence is a National Security issue Even worse, oil dependence is a competitive liability --- not an advantage. AI is energy intensive. And more expensive, carbon based based energy is a competitive disadvantage. A competitive disadvantage in AI is an economic issue --- which ultimately translates into a National Security issue. China leadership understands this. USA leadership i…

We're in an energy crunch, and Republicans think it is a good idea to cancel wind farms because they ruin the view.

They don't care about the view, they want to cancel them because they are "woke"

These are the people who roll coal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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I'm 45, grew up on a farm and I have childhood memories of my dad looking forward to the crop reports because those would have such an enormous effect on market prices. If this was meant to manipulate Trump into specific behavior, it is a masterful long play seeing as how this report is published in roughly the same way for over 50 years.

We're not reading the crop report. We're reading an article written using the crop report. Those are two very different things. I'm honestly scratching my head over here because this is bordering on being deliberately obtuse. Chinese purchases of US agricultural products is a high-level plank of any US-China trade deal and a very likely agenda item on any trade summit. This also isn't new. What do you think trade agr…

> Australian wheat basically isn't

It is, but is generally post facto instead of pre facto, which may be why you don't recognize it as such? In the US, subsidies are given by covering a portion of crop insurance premiums. When crops fail, the insurance covers the losses. Whereas Australia waits until crop failure occurs and then provides assistance to affected farmers "bailout"-style.

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Has the USA's potash supply been reduced due to strained relations with Canada? They are our top supplier, by far.

Fertilizer is pretty fungible and is a global market, so even if the US is primarily supplied by Canada, and overall global demand remained constant, prices would go up since there will be supply reduction due to the Hormuz strait being closed.

Having the two major inputs turned off turns fungible to non-fungible

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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I live in the middle of nowhere. The farmers here wheat crop failed last year, and DOGE prevented their insurance claims. They chose to grow oats this year because it's safer for them without the insurance backstop.

They voted for this, but everyone suffers, just like they wanted

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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we live in a closed greenhouse system, the water just doesn't just disappear and most of the Earth is covered in it. Plenty of countries completely rely on desalination already, I think we'll be fine. I'm much more concerned about everyone becoming a moron from using AI. edit: cloud seeding too.

> Plenty of countries completely rely on desalination already There are only 3 countries that do: Bahamas, Maldives, and Malta. Other countries that depend heavily, but not completely: Qatar, Kuwait, UAE.

Qatar, Kuwait, UAE. And these guys rent out tons of farmland in the USA to grow crops because they can flood irrigate and get five crops of alfalfa a year to feed their livestock.

Desal isn't useful for anything but a stop gap

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Title claims "due to plains drought" but the article text largely attributes this to increased planting of soy for its lower fertilizer requirements (related to Strait of Hormuz).

Wheat isn’t grown in the same places that beans grow. If you can, you’re rotating beans and corn every year. (“Roundup ready” of course) Wheat is on the marginal drier land. Not that they couldn’t plant wheat there but beans are way more profitable and so they don’t. The plains is by definition more arid, marginal land a step up from pasture/grazing. A lot of traditional wheat/sunflower/barley/oats has gone over to b…

> If you can, you’re rotating beans and corn every year.

Nah. Wheat isn't profitable if you look at it in isolation, but it is still net advantageous to have in the rotation.

> (“Roundup ready” of course)

Nah. IP soys aren't as attractive as they once were, granted, but the premium is still compelling enough to grow some.

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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My wife couldn't understand why I didn't care for edamame. After 40+ years on this planet I finally figured out that I really struggle to digest soy protein. They sneak that stuff in everywhere, but I do my best to avoid it.

Yes, the modern food landscape is a horrific catastrophe for anyone with serious dietary restrictions. It's actually disgusting how many things i used to eat have gone the way of soy/sorbitol and completely fucked their product just to pinch pennies. It happens to something i like about 3 or 4 times a year. They sneak those things in and i am unsuspectingly poisoned for weeks. It's one of the things about the modern…

Ah, so you've also given up on chocolate-coated-anything, any packaged desserts, etc?

As much as it bothers me, I do feel like I've had a healthier diet since cutting out soy. It's not the soy itself which makes these things unhealthy but rather that it's used as a filler in processed foods.

I'll be honest, though, I do miss Nutella.

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