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Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

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Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

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Post by donmcronald »

Barbing wrote: post #114
donmcronald wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ICANN DNS became a money grab It’s too bad more people don’t understand how the domain industry is structured under ICANN. IMO, the registries are ICANN’s customers, the registrants are part of the product being sold, and the registrars are a liability shield. One day there will be a grab for .com.

Fun fact (you probably remember), you used to report phishing sites with one simple email and they would actually be taken down. These days I get the feeling a lot of the registrars are essentially/effectively in on it (at least by inaction). A well-run ICANN feels needed, who can track takedown compliance.

Abuse handling is a mess. AFAIK, the registries, registrars, and ICANN all share responsibility in terms of mitigation. There’s no consistency.

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

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Post by arjie »

donmcronald wrote: post #108
1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"RIP Jon." In the 90s when learning about the internet I remember reading stuff written by "Jon Postel", a univeristy employee in California Today, a curious student trying to learn about the internet would probably end up reading stuff written by "Big Tech" and/or academics who have financial relationships with these or other so-called "tech" companies I remember Postel and one other person, perhaps at SRI, I forget…

> ICANN DNS became a money grab It’s too bad more people don’t understand how the domain industry is structured under ICANN. IMO, the registries are ICANN’s customers, the registrants are part of the product being sold, and the registrars are a liability shield. One day there will be a grab for .com.

In hindsight, quite lucky it’s a California non profit. That allowed us to stop the dot-org sale.

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

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Post by car »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #105
kraptv wrote: post #46

I have three locality domains, all with different registrars in Oregon. Two are with unique delegated locality domain registrars (think old school consultancies or ISPs that still exist) and one directly via localitymanagement.us (GoDaddy/USTLD). One of the registrars is from an out of state operator that has been dead for three years. I tracked his widow down and had a number of cordial conversations over about 18 m…

"RIP Jon." In the 90s when learning about the internet I remember reading stuff written by "Jon Postel", a univeristy employee in California Today, a curious student trying to learn about the internet would probably end up reading stuff written by "Big Tech" and/or academics who have financial relationships with these or other so-called "tech" companies I remember Postel and one other person, perhaps at SRI, I forget…

The hierarchical geographical domains you are remembering must have been the 2000 '.geo' Top Level Domain (TLD) proposal from SRI. It didn't work out, but I remember thinking at the time that it was a cool idea.

It would have provided geographical information based on a domain encoded grid, not for human but machine consumption (e.g. acme.2e5n.10e30n.geo).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.geo

In a similar vein there is the 'e164.arpa' domain for mapping telephone numbers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_number_mapping

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

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Post by car »

In Germany it is possible to register an ENUM domain for a phone number. This provides a DNS mapping from the E164 number to DNS records, e.g. for IP phones, etc.

Decentralized and under user control, no shitty silos like FaceTime, WhatsApp.

ENUM stands for “Telephone Number Mapping.” It is essentially a bridge between the world of telecommunications and the Internet. With a single ENUM domain, you can combine all your contact options under your familiar phone number:

https://www.denic.de/en/products/enum-domains/

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

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Post by russellbeattie »

morpheuskafka wrote: post #82

This list of (supposedly 7388, didn't realize there even were that many?) of them can apparently now be registered online replacing the email method in the OP: https://localitymanagement.us/registrar/domain/delegatedzone... edit -- seems like the server has been "slashdotted" by this thread, I was finally able to get an account created but can't log in. doesn't seem very well coded anyway since I was apparently able…

> "Slashdotted"

Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer.

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

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Post by hed »

TMWNN wrote: post #117
EvanAnderson wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I managed a couple ".k12.oh.us" domains back in the day. The employees hated the domain in their email addresses, but I found it very logical. I saw all kinds screwed-up addresses in bounce messages forwarded to my company address when "can't email people in the District" tickets got sent my way (a lot of "districtname.oh.k12.us", etc). I guess it wasn't so simple for "normies". One of the schools ended up using a ".…

.gov should never have been expanded to outside the US federal government. (.com should never have been expanded to outside US-headquartered companies, either.)

Agreed on both.

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

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Post by captn3m0 »

car wrote: post #125

In Germany it is possible to register an ENUM domain for a phone number. This provides a DNS mapping from the E164 number to DNS records, e.g. for IP phones, etc. Decentralized and under user control, no shitty silos like FaceTime, WhatsApp. ENUM stands for “Telephone Number Mapping.” It is essentially a bridge between the world of telecommunications and the Internet. With a single ENUM domain, you can combine all yo…

I saw this lets you do Fax over IP. Any other advantages or usecases?

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

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Post by car »

captn3m0 wrote: post #128
car wrote: post #125

In Germany it is possible to register an ENUM domain for a phone number. This provides a DNS mapping from the E164 number to DNS records, e.g. for IP phones, etc. Decentralized and under user control, no shitty silos like FaceTime, WhatsApp. ENUM stands for “Telephone Number Mapping.” It is essentially a bridge between the world of telecommunications and the Internet. With a single ENUM domain, you can combine all yo…

I saw this lets you do Fax over IP. Any other advantages or usecases?

I don't know if this gets much personal use, seems real cumbersome.

But this is of huge interest to carriers, since it allows them to skip the PSTN/peering cost when the callee endpoint is an IP phone.

There is private ENUM for carrier use I recall, not sure what the current status is, with LTE/VoLTE, RCS etc.pp.

http://dam3d3.free.fr/PFE/Pathfinder/GSMA_PathFinder_WebSite...

Here the list of countries that have ENUM delegated for their country code.

https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/inr/enum/Pages/delegations.aspx

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