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Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by dang »

readitalready wrote: post #87
krembo wrote: post #80

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> The world supports Oct 7 as they now recognize it as a good thing [...] something to celebrate.

Obviously you can't post like this here. Since you have a history of posting this (and worse) on HN, we've banned the account. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with.

HN users have a range of views on this and other divisive topics, and that's fine - but we don't allow religious or nationalistic slurs, celebration of violence, and so on.

"Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by tinfoilhatter »

krembo wrote: post #113
tinfoilhatter wrote: post #106

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Which ones? I may have fudged the church one - I meant Gaza and not the entirety of Palestine. What other claims above aren't true? I'm happy to provide sources to prove them.

Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by dang »

krembo wrote: post #80
readitalready wrote: post #77

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You can't post nationalistic slurs to HN, regardless of which group you're talking about and regardless of how strongly you feel. We ban accounts that post like this, regardless of the group being slurred, so please don't post like this again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by catlikesshrimp »

hersko wrote: post #90
catlikesshrimp wrote: post #37

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You cathegorize that as genocide when it is directed at a very specific group. Like jews in WWII, now it is Palestinians in their own country.

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https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

"Importantly, the victims of genocide are deliberately targeted - not randomly – because of their real or perceived membership of one of the four groups protected under the Convention (which excludes political groups, for example). This means that the target of destruction must be the group, as such, and not its members as individuals"

In this case, the target includes Hamas members, but the target group is Palestinians. Israel recently passed a law to allow hanging of Palestinians when [conditions]

Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by dang »

deaux wrote: post #8

Lovely, but in character, to see a .co.il 403-block a broad swath of the world.

I don't know what you're experiencing, of course, but I do know from the (entirely different) context of running HN that such blocks can happen for a lot of different reasons and you can't really assess them correctly without, at least, multiple data points. Not sure if it's helpful to say this or not...

Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by nelox »

exolymph wrote: post #120
ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #85

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Thanks for the link, I didn't realize the EFF spent their money on such things. I honestly thought they focused on free speech/privacy/open source. I'm not trying to argue pro Israel or what not, I just wish they'd focus on their core mission.

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Post by steele »

periodjet wrote: post #44
noworriesnate wrote: post #5

TIL that Microsoft is the least Israel-friendly of the big three clouds: > Among the cloud giants, Microsoft is considered the most vulnerable to anti-Israel protests and allegations of the use made by the Ministry of Defense on Azure, its cloud platforms, since it is the only company among the three major cloud companies that has not signed a special agreement with the Israeli government and the Ministry of Defense.…

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Free as in beer or free as in subsidized by the US taxpayer?

Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by j_maffe »

shrubble wrote: post #72
noworriesnate wrote: post #5

TIL that Microsoft is the least Israel-friendly of the big three clouds: > Among the cloud giants, Microsoft is considered the most vulnerable to anti-Israel protests and allegations of the use made by the Ministry of Defense on Azure, its cloud platforms, since it is the only company among the three major cloud companies that has not signed a special agreement with the Israeli government and the Ministry of Defense.…

I’m kind of confused, in that Israel is not that big in terms of population, about 10 million people; how much data and cloud do they need? The state of Pennsylvania is 13 million; would MSFT losing PA do them serious financial damage?

When you're doing mass surveilance, including storing every single phone call, of a population of 6 million people, storage needs tend to pile up quite fast.

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Post by sdellis »

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #85
bhouston wrote: post #16

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> TIL that Microsoft is the least Israel-friendly of the big three clouds This is a good thing. American companies should not be allowing their tech to be used to in the gross ongoing human rights violations in Israel/Gaza/West Bank. Google and Amazon knew their tech could be used for human rights abuses in Israel (their lawyers warned them so) but ignored that in favour of $$$ per the EFF: https://www.eff.org/deepli…

Thanks for the link, I didn't realize the EFF spent their money on such things. I honestly thought they focused on free speech/privacy/open source. I'm not trying to argue pro Israel or what not, I just wish they'd focus on their core mission.

The EFF's mission is to ensure that technology supports freedom, justice, and innovation for all people of the world. That is verbatim off their website. It appears that this perfectly in line with their core mission.
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