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Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

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Post by Anamon »

damnitbuilds wrote: post #2

"Its efforts will initially focus on [...] and collecting the generative AI wave that is currently upon us all." Why would they want to collect the AI wave ?! But about time the Internet Archive had a US-independent backup.

I might be overlooking something, but is a mirror of the Internet Archive even mentioned as a plan anywhere here? It was my first thought after reading the headline, too, but the website only speaks of archiving LLMs and, vaguely, some other collections, but not, for instance, the Wayback Machine.

Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

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Post by [deleted] »

simondotau wrote: post #98
mafuy wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany at least, uploading even a single byte of content is illegal. We don't really have Fair Use here; there are only few, very narrow exceptions. It is also not even required to show that that single byte was uploaded, your IP getting logged as part of the swarm suffices. The burden of proof is on you now. It was much, much worse than in the US. While all this is technically still true today, a new law a few y…

> even a single byte of content is illegal 10010110 Watch out die Deutschen, that’s the first byte of Super Mario Bros.

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Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

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Post by [deleted] »

dang wrote: post #97
trvz wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Typical for something made in St. Gallen. A sensible web developer from Zurich interested in the topic would have created this website in just a single HTML and an optional CSS file.

Normally we'd reply with "please don't do regional flamewar on HN" but this sounds so good-humored to me that I've canceled the (no doubt well-intentioned) downvotes instead. Edit: now someone is going to tell me how mean internecine Swiss conflict actually is...

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Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

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Post by dvogel »

LocalH wrote: post #79
y3ahd0g wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they should use bit torrent. IMO personal security would only be improved if we diversified away from "the open web". "Flood the field" with protocols and pre-shared key networks where we have to generate keys together in meat space, make it too expensive to operate the panopticon. Everyone putting their eggs in the open web basket, gathering in that public commons means all it takes is one bomb on us all, so to s…

BitTorrent allows untrusted users (read: industry plants) to connect and slurp down direct IP addresses to swarm participants. It's an unanswered legal question whether low-level uploading (such as the percentages one would get as a "leech", connecting to the torrent and then disconnecting immediately after completion) might fall under "fair use" or "fair dealing" statutes in various jurisdictions. US-centric here: I…

> US-centric here: I feel that uploading a small percentage of a file as a condition of downloading the whole thing may very well fall under fair use

This is not consistent with current Fair Use application. The TL;DR is that the use must be for a new expression that is protected by either the 1st amendment or copyright itself. I don't know of a single case where it has applied to mere distribution. I would be astounded if there is such a case because that isn't within the expressed purpose of the doctrine.

Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

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Post by well_ackshually »

LocalH wrote: post #79
y3ahd0g wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they should use bit torrent. IMO personal security would only be improved if we diversified away from "the open web". "Flood the field" with protocols and pre-shared key networks where we have to generate keys together in meat space, make it too expensive to operate the panopticon. Everyone putting their eggs in the open web basket, gathering in that public commons means all it takes is one bomb on us all, so to s…

BitTorrent allows untrusted users (read: industry plants) to connect and slurp down direct IP addresses to swarm participants. It's an unanswered legal question whether low-level uploading (such as the percentages one would get as a "leech", connecting to the torrent and then disconnecting immediately after completion) might fall under "fair use" or "fair dealing" statutes in various jurisdictions. US-centric here: I…

IP Firms have automated bots to send mails to abuse@provider the moment they see you even getting a file list. My Hetzner server got taken down after an abuse complaint from McGraw Hill saying that I downloaded some dogshit management book by merely connecting to DHT.

Hetzner is in Germany, the server is in Finland, the accuser is in the US. The only way to win is to either move away, or lobby for your countries to stop respecting US copyright laws.

Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

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Post by mftrhu »

cortesoft wrote: post #100
mafuy wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany at least, uploading even a single byte of content is illegal. We don't really have Fair Use here; there are only few, very narrow exceptions. It is also not even required to show that that single byte was uploaded, your IP getting logged as part of the swarm suffices. The burden of proof is on you now. It was much, much worse than in the US. While all this is technically still true today, a new law a few y…

You comment shares bytes with copyrighted content, does that mean you broke the law?

What colour are those bytes? https://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/23

Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

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Post by miki123211 »

lxgr wrote: post #111
cortesoft wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You comment shares bytes with copyrighted content, does that mean you broke the law?

Context matters. “Here’s byte 0x67, which is at offset 0x729B1A38 of Copyrighted_Blockbuster.4k.mkv, as requested” is different from “here’s byte 0x67, and it’s the first byte of my text response to your comment”.

See also: https://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/23

Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

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Post by badlibrarian »

dopidopHN2 wrote: post #114

I have a related question on the domain archive.org I've noticed that this domain now host content subject to copyright. As a example : entire season of startrek "voyager" are randomly hosted there in direct download. Why? Is that not a liability?

They've always had tons of copyrighted material on there. People report it, sometimes they take it down. Sometimes they pick fights and lose.

“We survived,” Internet Archive founder Brewster Kahle told Ars. “But it wiped out the Library.” https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/11/the-internet-arc...

Re: Internet Archive Switzerland

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Post by badlibrarian »

hggh wrote: post #115
dopidopHN2 wrote: post #114

I have a related question on the domain archive.org I've noticed that this domain now host content subject to copyright. As a example : entire season of startrek "voyager" are randomly hosted there in direct download. Why? Is that not a liability?

Internet Archive is a library. Libraries host copyrighted content. Libraries are good.

Libraries license the content they host. Internet Archive didn't. And nearly got sued out of existence because of it.
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