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Re: The vi family

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Exactly, it's wild! If anyone wants to have a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXBC85SGC0Q Correction, the driver is specifically for Apple Xserve front-panel

What is also wild is that the video has 2.5M views, very odd.

There's plenty of us weirdos out there

Re: The vi family

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And he doesn’t use any config it seems. No syntax highlighting, no line numbers, plain white text on dark background.

he did however decide to use a font which gives off comic sans vibes, which is a very interesting choice for an otherwise very barebones setup :D

Its probably the font that helps people with dyslexia.

Re: The vi family

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I’ve been a long time vim user, and I honestly never really bought into the efficiency claims. That gets repeated over and over, but If you’re a slow typer then no editor can really make much of a difference, and development in reality is a lot of reading code and thinking about code when it comes down to it. I’ve never used it because I thought it would make me some lightning fast super developer. I’ve always used i…

It is fun because it is fluent. vi has a language.

Re: The vi family

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he did however decide to use a font which gives off comic sans vibes, which is a very interesting choice for an otherwise very barebones setup :D

Its probably the font that helps people with dyslexia.

ah, good point!

Re: The vi family

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It’s funny how many forks aiming to keep it free from LLM-generated code. The luddites are present even in the most progressive parts of the population.

vi was never progressive, it was "the Ancients knew it better, the present sucks, these kids have terrible taste, return to the one true Past"

Well, I use Vi (NeoVim) and love it. In fact I use it with language servers and Copilot (LLM) and couldn't be happier. You can't get any more modern than that.

Re: The vi family

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I use Emacs but these days I spend so much time in the terminal that I'm seriously thinking going back to (N)Vim + Tmux combo. Emacs just feels so slow and complex when you are SSHing into multiple servers while running multiple AIs... I should go read that Vim book everybody recommends!

Re: The vi family

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post #119

I’ve been a long time vim user, and I honestly never really bought into the efficiency claims. That gets repeated over and over, but If you’re a slow typer then no editor can really make much of a difference, and development in reality is a lot of reading code and thinking about code when it comes down to it. I’ve never used it because I thought it would make me some lightning fast super developer. I’ve always used i…

    I’ve been a long time vim user, and I honestly never really bought into the efficiency claims. That gets repeated over and over, but If you’re a slow typer then no editor can really make much of a difference.

    Little by little your movements become more complex and efficient, and the journey to figuring that out is fun and interesting.
The slight contradiction in your comment has a lot of truth in it.

    It’s just fun, and I don’t think that gets talked about enough
Yes yes yes. Vim can absolutely lead to more efficient text editing, but I agree it has more to do with the fun journey than with typing speed.

vi definitely doesn't scratch that "itch" for everyone in the same way. But for me, it's as though I found a cheat code. Getting better at vi feels like getting better at a game - only practicing this game makes you better at any number of tasks that are relevant to your daily work.

(although if you also want to get better at typing speed, there are surprisingly fun roguelikes on Steam for just this purpose)

Re: The vi family

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Simple tool? Visual text editor is probably the most complicated piece of software in coreutils.

there's a visual editor in coreutils? i didn't realize oh i guess there's GNU Readline, but that's not in coreutils i think

No, you're right. I meant "universally included in Linux distributions".
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