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First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

rayiner wrote: post #117
SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And as the other commenter has already pointed out, you didn't say "for year 2025" only. That said, I'm surprised that the RAV4 is that popular, in the year 2025.

Why do you think the ranking changes that much from year to year? Model Y had the top spot 3 years in a row since 2020.

> Why do you think the ranking changes that much from year to year?

I did not say that. Why do you think that I did say that? (I'm surprised that the RAV was #1 in 2023-24 too. I don't see many or even any around here. But even 3 years clearly isn't "all time").

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by orwin »

iknowstuff wrote: post #112
SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"for the last three years" was another strong qualification the grandparent post did not make.

no you're right sorry it's not up to your standards of selling as many cumulative units as cars that have been sold longer than most readers of this website have been alive

I mean, just don't lie and make outlandish and idiotic claim then. If the claim was "most unit sold since 2020", no one would've bat an eye.

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by m463 »

fragmede wrote: post #109
darth_avocado wrote: post #35

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My model 3 also “has” 350+ mile range. Barely goes 270 in the real world with conservative driving. Trucking needs a lot more.

Try doing 68 instead of 75.

Or slower...

I got really good mileage once. The charging station I chose was not working and I drove to a nearby station doing maybe 25 on city streets long after midnight. Instead of arriving with 1% I arrived with 4%.

Probably would have gotten better mileage if I ran red lights and made stop signs optional.

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by m463 »

Animats wrote: post #69
narrator wrote: post #8

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The Tesla semi is the only truck with a 500 mile range. So it does have an advantage over other electric trucks for long-haul trucking.

500 miles with what load? Pepe's Towing, the heavy towing company in LA with a very popular YouTube channel, has two questions for drivers whose trucks need to be recovered or uprighted - "What's your cargo?", and "How much does it weigh?". (Pepe's comments that most drivers who roll over a truck cannot answer either question, which has a lot to do with why they rolled over.)

thinking of weird loads...

I friend told me a story of when he drove trucks in a previous life.

Once he had to drive a water tanker truck and someone ran a red light in front of him as he entered an intersection. He slammed on the brakes, but his water load sloshed. It would skid his truck forward into the intersection with each slosh. He avoided the accident, but just barely.

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

orwin wrote: post #122
iknowstuff wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no you're right sorry it's not up to your standards of selling as many cumulative units as cars that have been sold longer than most readers of this website have been alive

I mean, just don't lie and make outlandish and idiotic claim then. If the claim was "most unit sold since 2020", no one would've bat an eye.

Well, I raised an eyebrow at the claim that "The Toyota RAV4 is a very popular vehicle in terms of units sold worldwide over the last few years" as it just does not match what I see on the roads locally on a daily basis.

(There are tons of RAVs as yellow taxis in NYC though. That's the only place that I've seen them swarm)

But it is a defensible claim, and apparently globally it's true, even if locally it is not.

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Post by tomjakubowski »

mgoetzke wrote: post #79
adrian_b wrote: post #71

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Whenever such claims were made, it was correctly pointed that Tesla makes very few models, so their sales per model may be higher than for other vendors even when the total number of sold cars is higher for their competitors, where the sales are distributed over many models. There are Chinese vendors who sell more electric cars than Tesla.

Which ones ?

BYD and Geely both clear Tesla in electric vehicles sold. BYD sells more than double Tesla. VW isn't Chinese but they are right on Tesla's heels now.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/top-electric-vehicle-man...

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by solid_fuel »

mlmonkey wrote: post #99
solid_fuel wrote: post #52

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Automating the part that takes 1 minute is not really going to make a difference when the charging takes 29 more.

But that is the only manual step in the entire process. If a driverless truck could just pull into a charging station, automatically get topped up and be on its way without any manual intervention, that would be a game changer. One could operate such trucks basically 22hours/day, doubling the ROI.

No? None of this follows? You're skipping straight to driverless trucks but we don't have autonomous driving yet.

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by iknowstuff »

orwin wrote: post #122
iknowstuff wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no you're right sorry it's not up to your standards of selling as many cumulative units as cars that have been sold longer than most readers of this website have been alive

I mean, just don't lie and make outlandish and idiotic claim then. If the claim was "most unit sold since 2020", no one would've bat an eye.

Its literally the best selling car these days and it’s a well known fact. That you didnt know speaks to your bubble

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

iknowstuff wrote: post #128
orwin wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, just don't lie and make outlandish and idiotic claim then. If the claim was "most unit sold since 2020", no one would've bat an eye.

Its literally the best selling car these days and it’s a well known fact. That you didnt know speaks to your bubble

Don't knock people for not knowing stuff. We can always look it up and learn, and that's a good thing. No-one lives outside of a "bubble".

But in order to do so, the claim has to be presented in a coherent way, otherwise you'll check something else, such as here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48005822

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by donkyrf »

mgoetzke wrote: post #78
donkyrf wrote: post #36

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It's not newsworthy. There are more than a dozen companies shipping electric semis in low quantities, and at least three who have been shipping and supporting them for years. Anybody who thinks this the Tesla Semi is notable should go learn about the existing market. Tesla announced this thing a decade ago and they rolled one off of a theoretical line. Who cares? There's nothing new here. There's no new information a…

Of course its newsworthy if the company making the most electric cars in the world has setup a factory to produce semis and produced at least one after years of testing with actual customers that say they are very happy at seemingly very competitive pricing. To say its NOT newsworthy betrays a bias against Tesla which I would assume has nothing to do with actual facts.

BYD is, by far, the largest EV manufacturer in the world. And they've been making semis for ages.

It is not newsworthy that BYD shipped another one. They do that every 15 minutes.

So not only do I repeat that this article is not newsworthy -- but your proposed article about the company making the most electric cars in the world shipping one would _also_ not be newsworthy.

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