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Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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I’m be been using the publishing year on Spotify to determine whether or not a song is AI generated, or not. Anything before 2023 is most certainly from a human

Well, about that... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koan_(program)

I've always kind of assumed in the industry when it comes to top 40 music this kind of thing has been in heavy use at big labels since at least the dawn of the millenium when Pro Tools also took off, it's just not been nearly as obvious.

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This assumes that real people are listening to AI-generated music which does not seem to be the case. Spotify will still profit from fraudulent streams at the expense of advertisers.

Who will then stop advertising on there real quickly once they find out what's going on

That's a long-term challenge for the next CEO to figure out.

Unlike CTC or CTC, radio and streaming ad campaigns are notoriously hard to track and attribute, and hence trend to brand-awareness. Advertisers won't see the effect of rising fraudulent streams immediately.

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Purists have some agenda against AI that it's "soulless" and people shouldn't be allowed to enjoy that sort of music. Remember when Radiohead launched in rainbows all digital and a LOT of people protested?

wanting to support actual artists is being a "purist", why can't we just have opt in toggle to allow AI slop?

You can support real human artists all you want, that is your choice. That is not purism.

Purism is saying, like a lot of intent in this thread, people who listen to AI music are dumb and tasteless.

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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post #95

I do wonder why AI music is so lame. Every previous technological advancement in music produced amazing new sounds and styles but AI music seems to just be emulating lowest common denominator pop sludge. Where's the Bruce Haack or Kraftwerk of AI? Surely there's a previously unimaginable sound palette out there that we could be pulling from. Why is it all so BAD?

Because people don't put the effort in. A lot of electronic music can be considered lazy - just press button, turn a knob, boom you have music. Right? But then you have someone like Aphex Twin and they make something unique out of these easy machines. I'm sure someone can make unique or passable music with the help of AI tooling, but they can't do it by just saying "make me this music", no matter how much effort they…

It is the same with anything else. I use AI to write a lot of code - but I'm constantly tell it to fix some things - often the same type of error I told it yesterday (things that a junior engineer would have learned a few months ago it is still getting wrong)

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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post #95

I do wonder why AI music is so lame. Every previous technological advancement in music produced amazing new sounds and styles but AI music seems to just be emulating lowest common denominator pop sludge. Where's the Bruce Haack or Kraftwerk of AI? Surely there's a previously unimaginable sound palette out there that we could be pulling from. Why is it all so BAD?

If I had to guess, three related factors:

1. Platforms like Suno lack the granular control that can make a song distinctive and interesting. A prompt is an all-or nothing paradigm. There is no gradual build towards a final result like in normal creative processes. Yes you can supply lyrics but that’s hardly a substitute. And on top of that it’s painfully slow due to the nature of the technology.

2. As a result of 1, experienced music producers (familiar with regular DAWs) don’t want to use it. They probably prefer something with instant feedback. Tweak a synth param, you can instantly hear its effect. And changing one instrument doesn’t randomly affect unrelated things.

3. As a result of 2, the majority of AI generated music is throwaway and or created by amateurs who don’t have the ear for what makes a song good.

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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post #95

I do wonder why AI music is so lame. Every previous technological advancement in music produced amazing new sounds and styles but AI music seems to just be emulating lowest common denominator pop sludge. Where's the Bruce Haack or Kraftwerk of AI? Surely there's a previously unimaginable sound palette out there that we could be pulling from. Why is it all so BAD?

I find AI Iran to be the best hip-hop in a long time. What's bad about this?

https://youtu.be/i0u_BNPOsMw?si=IQ49AkUM-4tFTqKX

Re: Spotify adds 'Verified' badges to distinguish human artists from AI

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The more appropriate question is why they published a AI artist at all. I think Spotify (or its owners/investors) might actually benefit from recommending AI-generated music by not having to pay real artists. Like Spotify owns distribution, their largest investor Tencent Music Entertainment Group publishes AI-generated music = almost infinite profit. From news: Tencent Music demonstrated strong revenue (1) growth in…

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