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Re: Where the goblins came from

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post #87

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The number of things that Claude has told me are 'load-bearing' or 'belt-and-suspenders' is... very load-bearing

for me, doing the heavy lifting is doing the heavy lifting

Also too many lands and hits.

Re: Where the goblins came from

#122

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> am asking for a precision of language. “The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse wh***. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.”* --James D. Nicoll * Does not generally apply to scientific papers

Precision of ideas isn't purity of language.

> Precision of ideas isn't purity of language

That's fair. Was trying to be funny, so glossed over the difference. Leaving my post above unedited/undeleted as a testament to your precision, and evidence of my folly.

Onwards; more appropriate rebuttals:

"English is a precision instrument assembled from spare parts during a thunderstorm." --ChatGPT

“If the English language made any sense, a catastrophe would be an apostrophe with fur.” -- Doug Larson

Re: Where the goblins came from

#123
post #109

Would love if OpenAI did more of these types of posts. Off the top of my head, I'd like to understand: - The sepia tint on images from gpt-image-1 - The obsession with the word "seam" as it pertains to coding Other LLM phraseology that I cannot unsee is Claude's "___ is the real unlock" (try google it or search twitter!). There's no way that this phrase is overrepresented in the training data, I don't remember people…

Claude, at least 4.5, not checked recently, has/had an obsession with the number 47 (or numbers containing 47). Ask it to pick a random time or number, or write prose containing numbers, and the bias was crazy. Also "something shifted" or "cracked".

Maybe Claude is just a fan of Alias.

Re: Where the goblins came from

#124
post #96

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Does nobody else laugh that a company supposedly worth more than almost anything else at the moment, is basically hacking around a load of text files telling their trillion dollar wonder machine it absolutely must stop talking to customers about goblins, gremlins and ogres? The number one discussion point, on the number one tech discussion site. This literally is, today, the state of the art. McKenna looks more corre…

Is this the "prompt engineering" that I keep hearing will be an indispensable job skill for software engineers in the AI-driven future? I had better start learning or I'll be replaced by someone who has.

If you aren't telling your computer to ignore goblins, you're going to be left behind.

Re: Where the goblins came from

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Anthro means human and these are not human. Please do not use anthropology or any derivative of the word to refer to non-human constructs. I suggest Synthetipologists, those who study beings of synthetic origin or type, aka synthetipodes, just as anthropologists study Anthropodes

There is no word anthropodes. :) I guess it would mean man-feet. Antipodes is opposite-feet, literally. Synthetipologist looks to me like a portmanteau of synthetic and apologist. Otherwise the -po- in it comes from nowhere. Sensible boring versions of this like synthesilogy just end up meaning the study of synthesis. I reckon instead do something with Talos, the man made of bronze who guarded Crete from pirates and…

yeah I realized that when I looked up podes downthread. I still like synthetologist better than talologist, in general no one in the common folk knows who Talos is.

Re: Where the goblins came from

#126
post #15

For context, two days ago some users [1] discovered this sentence reiterated throughout the codex 5.5 system prompt [2]: > Never talk about goblins, gremlins, raccoons, trolls, ogres, pigeons, or other animals or creatures unless it is absolutely and unambiguously relevant to the user's query. [1] https://x.com/arb8020/status/2048958391637401718 [2] https://github.com/openai/codex/blob/main/codex-rs/models-ma...

Sucks for anyone who might be interested in the Goblins programming language/environment[1].

[1] https://spritely.institute/goblins/

Re: Where the goblins came from

#127
post #93

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Agree with your sentiment, I think synthetologist (σύνθετος/synthetos + λογία/logia) flows better. The plural of anthropos is anthropoi, not anthropodes.

Yeah, I realize that's more correct. I also realized when someone else downthread bastardized it into synthropologist that the podes part has entirely to do with feet and nothing to do with beings, necessarily. Anthro- -podes is more what I had in mind, not as a pluralization of anthropos. So unless the AI has feet you wouldn't study Synthetipology.

You're probably thinking of anthropoids? That's anthrop[os]-oid. Like in humanoid or centroid or factoid. Or dorkazoid.

Re: Where the goblins came from

#128

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Anthro means human and these are not human. Please do not use anthropology or any derivative of the word to refer to non-human constructs. I suggest Synthetipologists, those who study beings of synthetic origin or type, aka synthetipodes, just as anthropologists study Anthropodes

It is not in any sense of the word a being, it's a sophisticated generator that relies entirely on what you feed it.

> It is not in any sense of the word a being, it's a sophisticated generator that relies entirely on what you feed it.

OP is hedging bets in case the future overlords review forum postings for evidence of bias against machine beings. [1]

[1] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-for-one-welcome-our-new-ins...

Re: Where the goblins came from

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> Synthropologist Have an upvote :) *thropologist: study of beings

That's not how the Greek word stems work. Technically it would not be synthetipologist, it would more accurately just be Synthetologist, as the Greek podes suffix means having feet.

> That's not how the Greek word stems work.

Sir, I would have you know that we are discussing English terms, not Greek

AInthropologist works fine for me, and is a lot funnier

LoL

Re: Where the goblins came from

#130
post #4

> We unknowingly gave particularly high rewards for metaphors with creatures. I recall a math instructor who would occasionally refer to variables (usually represented by intimidating greek letters) as "this guy". Weirdly, the casual anthropomorphism made the math seem more approachable. Perhaps 'metaphors with creatures' has a similar effect i.e. makes a problem seem more cute/approachable. On another note, buzzword…

A decade ago I gave a presentation on automata theory. I demonstrated writing arbitrary symbols to tape with greek letters, just like I’d learned at university. The audience was pretty confused and didn’t really grok the presentation. A genius communicator in the audience advised me to replace the greek letters with emoji… I gave the same presentation to the same demographic audience a week later and it was a smash h…

I had a similar experience explaining logic, especially nested expressions, with cats and boxes. Also for showing syntactic versus semantic. We _can_ use cats if we wanted and retain the semantics. Also my proudest moment as a teacher was students producing a meme based on some of the discrete mathematics on graphs. They understood the point well enough to make a joke of it.
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