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Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Post by InvidFlower » Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 8:31 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #14

outside1234 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing they are really wildly behind on is a business model. They are losing wild amounts of money per customer and it is hard to see how the competitive situation is going to allow them to fix that.

Given the scaling hurdles Claude Code / Opus is having, those Anthropic customers might leave to Codex. I'm _this_ close.

Given the topic of this article, we've been using Claude Code pointed at Bedrock and have never had any scaling issues. Obviously it is more expensive paying by the token than a monthly plan, but I sometimes have 2 or 3 instances chugging along with Opus 4.7 or Sonnet 4.6 and have never had it be down or error out due to usage limits.

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Post by InvidFlower » Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 8:33 PM UTC

dannyw wrote: post #91

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #45

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Open AI is killing Sora though, so it looks like they are looking at Anthropic's playbook of focusing on enterprise use cases and seeing that it's more profitable.

But then they released gpt-image-2, which is clearly SOTA.

Besides what the other person mentioned about being more useful for enterprise, I also heard mentioned on a podcast that gpt-image-2 uses the same general architecture as the LLM models, while Sora was a very different architecture. So they don't need two different sets of everything by shutting down Sora.

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Post by InvidFlower » Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 8:39 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #12

This doesn't mean you have the raw model weights, right? That's still entirely hidden / opaque? You can just run "air gapped" inference? Is this only of interest to enterprise customers already on AWS (who want "air gapped" behavior)? Is there any other use case for this? This will be more expensive than calling OpenAI directly, right?

No, you definitely don't have access to the weights. The raw weights are secret enough that when a model hits a certain level of capability, their guidelines are that they need enough procedures in place to try to keep nation states from being able to hack in and steal the weights.

I think cost is fairly similar. As for who wants it, enterprise stuff is a big thing, but it also seems very reliable. Have never had any rate restrictions or had it just be down, which it sounds like a lot of people have issues with for Anthropic's servers.

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Post by InvidFlower » Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 8:47 PM UTC

cmiles8 wrote: post #115

OpenAI is starting to scramble after missing revenue targets, and this move is likely 24 months too late. There’s almost nobody that will suddenly start using AI because of this decision and those already using it have already broadly made their model decisions to use things other than OpenAI. It’s good to see more model diversity on Bedrock, but this smells more a rushed play by OpenAI to stop the market share bleed…

I'm not so sure about that. Like we're using Claude Code with Bedrock and have most things on AWS with SOC2 compliance and all that. Normally switching to Codex would have a ton of friction in terms of separate contract and billing, worrying about data retention, etc.

But with Codex and GPT5.5 having generally good reviews, when it goes on Bedrock, it would be very simple for us to just try it out. Obviously there's the general friction of knowledge and comfort of Claude Code vs Codex, but that seems possible to overcome depending on the differential of the models and also of the features. Like if Codex gets remote control for Bedrock, that'd be a big advantage over Claude Code on it.

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Post by InvidFlower » Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 8:59 PM UTC

epistasis wrote: post #16

echelon wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the scaling hurdles Claude Code / Opus is having, those Anthropic customers might leave to Codex. I'm _this_ close.

I'm getting pretty close too, but I wouldn't switch to Codex I'd switch to one of the open agents that can use any backing LLM. My reasoning is that if I'm willing to pay the cost of the small changes in usage, I might as well switch to an open source agent that I can add my own convenience features to, like remote sessions and phone-based operation.

For the topic of remote control, Happy seems to be working pretty well for Claude Code but is also supposed to support Codex. It's a bit rough around the edges, but nice that it is open source: https://github.com/slopus/happy

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Post by moulick » Fri, May 01, 2026, 6:47 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #12

This doesn't mean you have the raw model weights, right? That's still entirely hidden / opaque? You can just run "air gapped" inference? Is this only of interest to enterprise customers already on AWS (who want "air gapped" behavior)? Is there any other use case for this? This will be more expensive than calling OpenAI directly, right?

Cost of using Anthropics models is same wether buying from AWS or Anthropic directly, Most likely OpenAI models will be the same

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Post by moulick » Fri, May 01, 2026, 6:50 PM UTC

ManishR wrote: post #65

KaiserPro wrote: post #40

Great, I can now buy openAI through AWS with an interface that is totally incompatible with all my tools (unless AWS have finally given up and just made bedrock useful by adopting openAPI finally)

Product Manager for Bedrock Mantle here. We now have bedrock-mantle endpoint which supports OpenAI API compatibility with Responses and Chat Completions support. See https://docs.aws.amazon.com/bedrock/latest/userguide/endpoin...

I have a question as a Senior Platform Engineer in charge of AWS in my company, claude-code supports both Bedrock and Mantle. I don't get what's the difference for me or any other engineer in my company to use Anthropic's models via Bedrock or Mantle?