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Re: Warp is now open-source

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Post by [deleted] »

zachlloyd wrote: post #8
shimman wrote: post #7

Still feel extremely negative towards this company for tweaking an Alacritty fork then using that to get a $50million venture round then giving zero money towards Alacritty, an open source library that the founder completely owes their career too. Not shocked they partnered with another company that is fine with raping the commons for profit, OpenAI. They definitely did some git cleanup to remove this fact too going…

Warp founder here. Totally understood on the feedback - one thing I would call out is that we actually worked with Alacritty on the initial implementation and they were super helpful and we are grateful for their support.

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Re: Warp is now open-source

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Post by drakenot »

I used to like Warp and was a paying customer.

It had a simple UI with a clear button / key combo to toggle the “agent mode”. That, plus the fact it could “warpify” my SSH connections made this a useful utility.

Then a couple months ago they completely changed the UI. It doesn’t work as it once did. My saved prompt templates didn’t work as they did before, the agent toggle was gone (you can now start some ‘/agent’ command but it is much less intuitive) and they seem to be focusing on these cloud agents and code editing.

I want none of these things. I loved a simple terminal that let me still execute sudo, let me ssh into remote machines but still bring Claude and OpenAI models to interact with my session.

Re: Warp is now open-source

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Post by xnyan »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #98
rapind wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why wouldn't you throw them a few bucks? Especially if your multi-million dollar business is basically a vim clone entirely based on their source...

I would once profitable, but early stages where every dollar matters? I can see why they wouldnt just throw money left and right.

If you're actually asking the question, I'll give you my answer: I was lucky enough to go to a nice spa resort earlier this year, I just handed a few bills to an attendant who had laid out a towel for me when an older man sitting next to me chuckled and shook his head saying "You don't actually have to give them them anything, they have to do it anyway." Super nice resort, nobody here hurting for a few dollars in tips.

I guess it's valid to take everything you legally can, but personally, I'm saying it's fucked up move not to pay even a token amount. That's their only consequence, (some) people thinking it's a fucked up move.

Re: Warp is now open-source

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Post by zachlloyd »

drakenot wrote: post #122

I used to like Warp and was a paying customer. It had a simple UI with a clear button / key combo to toggle the “agent mode”. That, plus the fact it could “warpify” my SSH connections made this a useful utility. Then a couple months ago they completely changed the UI. It doesn’t work as it once did. My saved prompt templates didn’t work as they did before, the agent toggle was gone (you can now start some ‘/agent’ co…

argh, sorry that we made it worse for you, that definitely was not the intention. we were trying to make the modes clearer.

You can still basically get back to the same way of working if you set new terminal sessions to be "agent sessions" and enable natural language detection. that's how i use it.

Re: Warp is now open-source

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Post by qwerpy »

rounce wrote: post #118
heymijo wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's an interview that got scrubbed from the internet with Zach on the 20VC podcast with Harry Stebbings. This comment and its lack of self-awareness exemplify what was on display for 60 minutes. Zach is undoubtedly smart but for anyone who is not an SV insider, they would listen to that podcast they same way you are looking at this comment and wonder if it's all one big joke.

Found it here: https://www.podbean.com/media/share/dir-e3n2c-28221400 The host is absolutely insufferable.

I attempted to listen and couldn't get over the "Wolp" pronunciation of warp.

Re: Warp is now open-source

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Post by zachlloyd »

Muhammad523 wrote: post #103
zachlloyd wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We hear this feedback a bunch and are trying to make Warp more customizable so you can pick and choose which of the extra, non-terminal features you find most useful . You can turn off all the AI if you want, and also control what editing features are surfaced (e.g. file tree, diff view, etc). Would love feedback on how to improve the experience.

> You can turn off they AI if you want Since your company is basically based on this agentic coding thing, i really don't see why anybody would run Warp without AI. Why not use a normal terminal then? Oh yeah, to waste space on disk and to use more RAM: we have plenty

we have a lot of users who like warp as a place to run other coding agents (e.g. claude code, codex) and have tried to improve the experience for those beyond what a typical terminal offers (e.g. code review, file tree)

Re: Warp is now open-source

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Post by jdejean »

I loved using Warp. I used it daily for over a year. Setup workflow scripts and customizations, it worked almost exactly how I wanted it to.

Then one day, I opened it up to find the command bar was replaced with a natural language prompt. It changed the behavior subtly, and changed how the prompt looked.

I uninstalled.

I don’t care that you can opt out. My gripe isn’t about AI. I don’t want my tools and workflows changing at random. If you have a new feature, mention it in the “what’s new” log and suggest I opt in.

Not to get meta but I loathe how this sort of thing is commonplace these days. I would pay so much money for app developers to just fucking stop shoveling. Constantly chasing new audiences only stands to ostracize your own. Maybe you care and maybe you don’t. I bounced tho.

My mini vision for Warp when I got really into it was keeping it lightly AI flavored, but leaning into the workflows. The way it multicursors to fill variables was awesome. I don’t care about agents, but I would want to see agents exist as workflows (tools) rather than ephemeral beings like opencode or cursor 3

Re: Warp is now open-source

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Post by argc »

lagniappe wrote: post #76
shimman wrote: post #7

Still feel extremely negative towards this company for tweaking an Alacritty fork then using that to get a $50million venture round then giving zero money towards Alacritty, an open source library that the founder completely owes their career too. Not shocked they partnered with another company that is fine with raping the commons for profit, OpenAI. They definitely did some git cleanup to remove this fact too going…

If you expect payment then put that in the license. Yes it's a dick move, but those are the terms the original developer chose.

Yeah I don't understand why people are acting so hurt by this. If you want to be paid for something, don't make it open source. If you want to force users to keep the source open, make it GPL/AGPL/whatever. If you want to prevent commercial use, use an appropriate license. This company didn't do any wrong from my limited knowledge of this thread.

Sure it would be great for them to give back, and they absolutely should, but I don't see why they deserve any hate (unless they hide what they did or engage in otherwise shady practices, but based on the comments I'm not seeing that).

Re: Warp is now open-source

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Post by qwerpy »

devin wrote: post #113
zachlloyd wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that's the correct read - we shared what we were building and they helped us integrate alacritty. it's similar to how mitchell h reached out and asked today if we wanted to integrate ghostty. we have a lot of open source library dependencies and are grateful to the folks who worked on them

I thought the negative sentiment being shared here was hyperbolic, but you look absolutely ridiculous in these comments. "Actually, we are sure people who were critical to our success are happy they received nothing in return for their labor." <- This is you. This is what you sound like.

I have no skin in the game for either side of this, but I looked pretty hard at his comment history and couldn't find anything even remotely sounding like that. All he does is express gratitude for the projects they collaborated with. Alacritty folks themselves are saying as much here.

There's some undercurrent of something that seems to be driving a lot of the rage in the comments here. Anti-AI/OpenAI/"VC money"/"the rich"?

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