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Sawe becomes first athlete to run a sub-two-hour marathon in a competitive race

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Post by robot_jesus »

sergiotapia wrote: post #108
codezero wrote: post #94

Those shoes are gonna sell like crazy now but it would be hilarious if they were to be found to have been giving an unfair advantage because of some mechanical property of the shoe.

what else could it possibly be if not that?

Well, the marathon record has been broken 53 times since the early 1900s. So, there are a lot of factors at play. Better training, better nutrition, better tactics, and, yes, better shoes.

The advancements in shoes have made a measurable impact, but there are lots of optimizations being worked on.

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Post by tim333 »

dmurray wrote: post #15

There's something about the London course today that made for very good running. Three athletes broke the men's world record. One athlete broke the women's world record, and three were in the all time top 5. An Irish record was also broken, likely other countries too that I'm not familiar with. Not to take anything away from the achievements. Incredible running.

It was good weather for London. Clear skies and cool.

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Post by brewdad »

jmb99 wrote: post #98
croemer wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's even slow for high schoolers. I didn't practice that much and ran 100m in 12.5s from rest at my peak. 4s slower is snail pace. I think most in my class could run that fast (or slow).

I agree. I ran mid 16s in 8th grade, and was in the 14s in high school, with the only training being whatever we did in gym class. But I do also look at the sheer number of overweight kids these days and figured, well maybe mid-16s is actually a reasonable average point.

Oh it is. At a typical large high school making the team puts you in the top 1% or better of athletic ability compared to the population at large.

At my peak, I finished the NYC Marathon in the top 2%. I still finished 45 minutes behind the winner.

It feels like elite athletes aren’t even competing in the same sport.

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Post by RobotCaleb »

DwnVoteHoneyPot wrote: post #109
codezero wrote: post #94

Those shoes are gonna sell like crazy now but it would be hilarious if they were to be found to have been giving an unfair advantage because of some mechanical property of the shoe.

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Post by twobitshifter »

spenjovewkwhalo wrote: post #68

Posted to my in-laws, who asked how: Super shoes. Most shoes have carbon plates in them now, they act as a spring, storing energy and propelling athletes forwards. Better understanding of fuelling. Most athletes are taking between 100-120g carbs (sugar) per hour. Bicarbonate of soda has also been effective. Better planning tools. Athletes look at elevation, headwind, tailwind and will plan a strategy around going har…

Well at least on the PED front, saw has been doing an extreme amount of testing to try to eliminate those doubts.

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Post by twobitshifter »

ronbenton wrote: post #53
vessenes wrote: post #3

Don’t forget Yomif Kejelcha who finished in 1:59:41, a world record up until 11 seconds prior. Amazing.

Imagine having the second fastest marathon time ever yet not winning the marathon you ran it in

Apparently 3 people broke the record in the same race!

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sergiotapia wrote: post #108
codezero wrote: post #94

Those shoes are gonna sell like crazy now but it would be hilarious if they were to be found to have been giving an unfair advantage because of some mechanical property of the shoe.

what else could it possibly be if not that?

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Post by brewdad »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #36
hdndjsbbs wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pacing is a big part of endurance sport. If you're in the lead you know intellectually you want to pace for sub-2 hours, but if you're watching someone beat you maybe it gives you the extra edge? It does sound like the course and the weather made it more likely to happen. And technical advances in shoe composition.

That's not a description of how the pacing for this race actually happened. > The leading men went through halfway in 60 minutes and 29 seconds: fast but not exceptionally so. But it turned out that Sawe was merely warming up. Between 30 and 35 kilometres, Sawe and Kejelcha ran a stunning 13:54 for 5km to see off Kiplimo. Yet, staggeringly, more was to come as the pair covered kilometres 35 to 40 in 13:42. To put thi…

Elite marathon runners aim for a one minute negative split (Second half faster than the first). These guys pretty much nailed it.
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