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The Rich and Powerful Want to Live Forever. What If They Could?

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Gonna go out on a limb here and say that old age and dying are actually good, and that many of the problems in Western society are due to people living too long and holding onto power longer than they should / not passing on power and resources to younger generations.

I think some amazing people should have lasted longer and society would be better for it.

Re: The Rich and Powerful Want to Live Forever. What If They Could?

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post #116
post #11

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If you've read the site guidelines ( https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ), it should be clear that comments like this one—indignant, generic, and fulminant—violate the intended use of the site. Please don't do this here. Thoughtful critique is fine, of course.

It’s not “generic”. It refers to, like, 100 people or less.

There’s a comment down below that says “most young people would do it”. Why don’t you say anything to that person?

Re: The Rich and Powerful Want to Live Forever. What If They Could?

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post #122
post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you've read the site guidelines ( https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ), it should be clear that comments like this one—indignant, generic, and fulminant—violate the intended use of the site. Please don't do this here. Thoughtful critique is fine, of course.

It’s not “generic”. It refers to, like, 100 people or less. There’s a comment down below that says “most young people would do it”. Why don’t you say anything to that person?

Generic has to do with categories, not quantity. But this was not a borderline call—it's the kind of comment the guidelines are trying to persuade, cajole, and/or coax you into not posting here!

Not that you owe the rich and powerful better, necessarily, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.

> Why don’t you say anything to that person?

Purely because I didn't see it. It's flagkilled now.

We don't come close to seeing everything that gets posted to HN—there's far too much. When you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, that's the likeliest explanation. You can help by flagging it or emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com.

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Re: The Rich and Powerful Want to Live Forever. What If They Could?

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post #68

I would have expected better of HN. I agree that wealth and power accumulation are a problem. But the conclusion obviously isn't to have everyone forcibly DIE. If anything, this is an argument to make longevity more accessible. The article is heavily biased against the evil tech billionaires. So much so, that it has to outright lie about Bryan Johnson? His "proprietary longevity routine" is actually fully public. The…

> I would have expected better of HN. On a very dark night I would have expected worse. > I agree that wealth and power accumulation are a problem. But the conclusion obviously isn't to have everyone forcibly DIE. If anything, this is an argument to make longevity more accessible. Maybe there is some corner of the article that advocates people forcibly dying... but from skimming it, the topic is about powerful people…

Maybe there is some corner of the article that advocates people forcibly dying... but from skimming it, the topic is about powerful people using things like “brainless clones” to extend their lives.

This is the premise in Ishiguro's Never Let Me Go, phantastic book but really devastating.

Re: The Rich and Powerful Want to Live Forever. What If They Could?

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post #123
post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not “generic”. It refers to, like, 100 people or less. There’s a comment down below that says “most young people would do it”. Why don’t you say anything to that person?

Generic has to do with categories, not quantity. But this was not a borderline call—it's the kind of comment the guidelines are trying to persuade, cajole, and/or coax you into not posting here! Not that you owe the rich and powerful better, necessarily, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. > Why don’t you say anything to that person? Purely because I didn't see it. It's flagkilled now. We…

Fair enough. Thank you for your work, I know it can be quite demanding to deal with people like this all the time.

Re: The Rich and Powerful Want to Live Forever. What If They Could?

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post #15

Please read ‘How to Stop Time’ by Matt Haig It’s a beautiful short novel exploring this idea.

Otherland by Tad Williams, where the powerful oligarchs of corporations are kept bodily alive bybmachinery, their mind have been transferred to a cirtual reality and they keep on going by making said virtual reality the next hypercapitalist venture.

Re: The Rich and Powerful Want to Live Forever. What If They Could?

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post #47

Living forever sounds awful. For one, I am extremely curious what happens when I die. Without death, life becomes a hollow shell, or at least I imagine it would, as you would lack urgency.

How about if I chase you down the street with a stick? I mean, to impart urgency to your life, save you from existential malaise.

Re: The Rich and Powerful Want to Live Forever. What If They Could?

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK most societies historically respected the wisdom attributed to old age, and many cultures still do.

If anything, we’ve seen that older generations of leadership can’t keep up with changing technology and fail to adapt to massive upheavals. In times of rapid technological development, the old are not wise. They are reactionary and cannot adapt. Their brain stopped developing before the internet. To expect them to make adequate decisions for the current landscape is to expect them to understand a world they simply we…

Massively ageist.

A lot of older people are more adaptable, have a better understanding of technology. The older you are the more change you will have experienced.

Re: The Rich and Powerful Want to Live Forever. What If They Could?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything, we’ve seen that older generations of leadership can’t keep up with changing technology and fail to adapt to massive upheavals. In times of rapid technological development, the old are not wise. They are reactionary and cannot adapt. Their brain stopped developing before the internet. To expect them to make adequate decisions for the current landscape is to expect them to understand a world they simply we…

Massively ageist. A lot of older people are more adaptable, have a better understanding of technology. The older you are the more change you will have experienced.

Yeah that’s why congress is just so on top of technology regulation.

Just because it’s ageist doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

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