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Re: Books are not too expensive

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Tangential, and very anecdotal, but I've been seeing more books on the BART. While almost everyone is hunched over their phones of course, it feels like there's a growing number reading a paperback. (Oddly? it's been a while since I saw a kindle.)

One of the things that I loved about Paris when I was there a couple of years ago was that everyone on the subway had books out (whether Kindles or paper) -- very few phones in sight.

Re: Books are not too expensive

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Sort of on topic but I wonder about the CO2e or energy cost of books. My friend recently opened a book store and the supply chain seems crazy: - Make paper somewhere - Ship paper to China - Print the book in China - Ship the book back across the ocean to the publisher's distribution center - Ship the book the bookstore to shelve - Ship the book back to the publisher if it doesn't sell The CO2e of all of these steps m…

That's pretty much it, although the US and EU do have local printers and paper sources, so not everything goes through China.

China has become popular in recent years because a number of printers offer special editions - sprayed/deckled edges, high quality hard binding - which authors can sell as high-margin items to genre fiction collectors.

Generally, the print industry is incredibly destructive. In addition to all the shipping, it literally eats forests and uses huge quantities of water.

Re: Books are not too expensive

#123

Sort of on topic but I wonder about the CO2e or energy cost of books. My friend recently opened a book store and the supply chain seems crazy: - Make paper somewhere - Ship paper to China - Print the book in China - Ship the book back across the ocean to the publisher's distribution center - Ship the book the bookstore to shelve - Ship the book back to the publisher if it doesn't sell The CO2e of all of these steps m…

They are not that high cost to produce and they can last which makes them very sustainable. Its common for books to last decades.

Re: Books are not too expensive

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It's nice to own books. Read them multiple times, dog-ear the pages, scribble in the margins, risk reading them in the pool. But for the price conscious general reader just inter-library loan. If you want to buy To Kill A Mockingbird or The Hobbit be my guest, but any library in the US would have a few copies of those. Public libraries are awesome. Use it or lose it.

> It's nice to own books. Read them multiple times, dog-ear the pages, scribble in the margins, risk reading them in the pool.

Responding to the dead child comment: that's what common paperbacks are for. Don't don't mess up a nice hardcover or anything rare.

Re: Books are not too expensive

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"EBITDA serves as a standard profit metric across companies and industries" No it doesn't! EBITDA is not standardized metric. It's not defined under GAAP or IFRS. Companies calculate it differently, often adjusting it in ways that make their results look better. If you want a 'standard profit metric', use net income. That one is actually defined under GAAP and IFRS.

Its not standard, but its widely used because it is more comparable between companies as it removes the impact of interest (and therefore capital structure) and depreciation (which can reflect different histories).

The standardised measures can be manipulated too.

Re: Books are not too expensive

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Plus, back of the napkin cost shows it is not that expensive. 30$ (or 20€) times 52 weeks : 1560$ (1040€) Not cheap but less than 5% of a minimum yearly salary of 32k$. [1] Same in most occidental europe. [2] And not everyone reads a book a week (if only so…)

[1] : https://www.bls.gov/cew/publications/employment-and-wages-an... [2] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_...

Re: Books are not too expensive

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It's nice to own books. Read them multiple times, dog-ear the pages, scribble in the margins, risk reading them in the pool. But for the price conscious general reader just inter-library loan. If you want to buy To Kill A Mockingbird or The Hobbit be my guest, but any library in the US would have a few copies of those. Public libraries are awesome. Use it or lose it.

> It's nice to own books. Read them multiple times, dog-ear the pages, scribble in the margins, risk reading them in the pool. Responding to the dead child comment: that's what common paperbacks are for. Don't don't mess up a nice hardcover or anything rare.

Why? Books are to be read, annotated, lived with and lent out, not treated as precious objects in a way that is completely orthogonal to their use-value.

Re: Books are not too expensive

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my actual problem with books is that you can't change the font or font size, and you can't do dark mode. Maybe if I get cataract surgery it might not matter as much.

Re: Books are not too expensive

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Sort of on topic but I wonder about the CO2e or energy cost of books. My friend recently opened a book store and the supply chain seems crazy: - Make paper somewhere - Ship paper to China - Print the book in China - Ship the book back across the ocean to the publisher's distribution center - Ship the book the bookstore to shelve - Ship the book back to the publisher if it doesn't sell The CO2e of all of these steps m…

That's pretty much it, although the US and EU do have local printers and paper sources, so not everything goes through China. China has become popular in recent years because a number of printers offer special editions - sprayed/deckled edges, high quality hard binding - which authors can sell as high-margin items to genre fiction collectors. Generally, the print industry is incredibly destructive. In addition to all…

I will have to check my shelves but I can’t think of a book I read recently that didn’t say printed in China.

Although most of my book purchases have been kids books or textbooks. Maybe that is the reason.

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