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Japan implements language proficiency requirements for certain visa applicants

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Re: Japan implements language proficiency requirements for certain visa applicants

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This is the most divorced-man comment I've ever read.

And the most correct.

Idk why people who hate women can't resist telling on themselves like this. What makes you think this line of thinking is acceptable, or even rational?

Re: Japan implements language proficiency requirements for certain visa applicants

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Your idea of “racism” arose in a western historical context and simply has no application to Japan. Japan didn’t bring a bunch of people to their country by force and then enslave them and deny them political rights for hundreds of years. Nation-states not only exist, the UN recognizes their existence as a human right in the The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. The UN recognizes a right of “peopl…

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Re: Japan implements language proficiency requirements for certain visa applicants

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Your idea of “racism” arose in a western historical context and simply has no application to Japan. Japan didn’t bring a bunch of people to their country by force and then enslave them and deny them political rights for hundreds of years. Nation-states not only exist, the UN recognizes their existence as a human right in the The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. The UN recognizes a right of “peopl…

Non-Japanese people don't be weird about Japan challenge (difficulty: impossible)

Re: Japan implements language proficiency requirements for certain visa applicants

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POTUS doesn't have the power to set an official language.

It's not the Department of War, either. Still says that everywhere.

Legal documents, contracts, and court filings must continue to use Department of Defense because legally the Department of War doesn't exist.

Re: Japan implements language proficiency requirements for certain visa applicants

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Why do you need that requirement be validated by people and at a level not connection to the place of work?

Because the government is responsible for border control and immigration? The alternative is that the company must provide evidence, but I don't see how this is better.

The first doesn't explain anything - the government was responsible before this new policy, so having no such policy doesn't go agasint that fact. Also other alternatives exist

Re: Japan implements language proficiency requirements for certain visa applicants

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Your idea of “racism” arose in a western historical context and simply has no application to Japan. Japan didn’t bring a bunch of people to their country by force and then enslave them and deny them political rights for hundreds of years. Nation-states not only exist, the UN recognizes their existence as a human right in the The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. The UN recognizes a right of “peopl…

Non-Japanese people don't be weird about Japan challenge (difficulty: impossible)

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Re: Japan implements language proficiency requirements for certain visa applicants

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post #117

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And the most correct.

Idk why people who hate women can't resist telling on themselves like this. What makes you think this line of thinking is acceptable, or even rational?

The first paragraph in the GP comment makes a lot of sense. Just today I was listening to a program on NPR about birth control in Uganda - women were complaining about their husbands want more and more children. These women in Uganda were getting their contraceptives discreetly without their husbands knowledge.

When women are empowered they choose to have less kids.

(Another example of this is closer to home. Project 2025 wants to curtail contraceptives distribution and usage with the same goal: more kids. It is the same logic - diminish women’s power have re: pregnancy in order to increase birth rate)

Re: Japan implements language proficiency requirements for certain visa applicants

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Countries are not just places you work, first of all.

ironically the first people who would disagree with you are the people who passed this piece of legislation slightly more seriously though work is one place where language acquisition happens organically, work is where culture emerges and despite the grievances I have with Anglosphere one great aspect of it is that they are never so frail to think that language can or must be imposed by a commissioner.

Are you kidding?

One of the first things the Anglosphere did was enforce language customs. I think you should review a bit of the history here. Why do you think the standard language for flight is English? To the extent that language acquisition happens at the office, it comes at the expense of actually getting work done.

Re: Japan implements language proficiency requirements for certain visa applicants

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As someone who has been living in Japan for years now, and still has a long way to go learning the language, I generally support language proficiency requirements. First, it should be noted that these are fairly common sense requirements designed to reduce fraud - requiring people applying for work visas that require Japanese proficiency to actually be able to speak Japanese. I suspect there will be more requirements…

> And second - it’s really hard to participate in society if you can’t speak the language. I think this creates resentment for both Japanese citizens and foreign residents alike. I basically agree, but there are two problems with this: 1) the JLPT is a test of fairly academic reading and listening (for those unfamiliar, it’s basically the equivalent of the US SAT reading/vocab section in terms of difficulty). There’s…

Not sure why your comment is downvoted, because it hits the issue dead center, namely it's completely possible to pass either of the required tests (N2/J2) and not being able to speak a single word of Japanese in a live conversation.

That's why at least one category of applicants abusing the visa (Chinese) will continue to do so without any issues.

Re: Japan implements language proficiency requirements for certain visa applicants

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> And second - it’s really hard to participate in society if you can’t speak the language. I think this creates resentment for both Japanese citizens and foreign residents alike. I basically agree, but there are two problems with this: 1) the JLPT is a test of fairly academic reading and listening (for those unfamiliar, it’s basically the equivalent of the US SAT reading/vocab section in terms of difficulty). There’s…

Not sure why your comment is downvoted, because it hits the issue dead center, namely it's completely possible to pass either of the required tests (N2/J2) and not being able to speak a single word of Japanese in a live conversation. That's why at least one category of applicants abusing the visa (Chinese) will continue to do so without any issues.

There are a lot of folks who do not want to hear anything truthful if it violates their sense of national justice.

I don't have a dog in the fight. I just think the current "solution" is blunt, and will end up damaging both the Japanese economy, and a bunch of people who were never "the problem", per se.

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