Looks like compelled speech to me, both for the operating system creator and the users. I do not believe that “interstate commerce” powers negate the first amendment.
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US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed
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#122Will this make Linux illegal?
Not if the software complies, which is in discussion.
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#123You will be charged with child endangerment if you let your kid use your phone.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ever seen a giant warning on cigarette ads that nicotine is addictive? Do you think half the ad is covered by the black box out of charity? Settled law decades ago. On that note, today is April 15th, tax day. The day where if you don’t provide hard numbers about your life against your will and at your own expense, prison opens as a possibility.
Cigarettes are a product that is sold . Many operating systems are free. I use several that are small projects entirely produced by hobbyists. Even if they stack the courts with muppets who ignore the obvious first amendment angle to get this passed, I will never comply with this and I will happily help others defy it.
So if I hand out free cigarettes, I’d be in the clear.
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#125US should first implement a national identifier that can be used for healthcare purposes before implementing age verification, that would be a lot more helpful.
The US should first implement an equivalent to the GDPR that puts a stop to the ongoing abuses of the current identification systems. After we see that is working, then we can talk about increasing the technical strength of identification systems.
Welllll, the land of GDPR keeps pushing for the chat control. Not sure there are any good guys left.
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#126Looks like compelled speech to me, both for the operating system creator and the users. I do not believe that “interstate commerce” powers negate the first amendment.
If you really want to get constitutional on it, I think a better angle might be 4A (unreasonable search) or 5A (due process). Requiring disclosure of my age is effectively a search, without specific probable cause, and there are no means for me to challenge this in court.
It's really a violation of all of the above.
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#127US should first implement a national identifier that can be used for healthcare purposes before implementing age verification, that would be a lot more helpful.
Yes but they would need a functional healthcare system first.
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#128It is currently in commitee the energy and commerce committee. If one of your reps sits on this committee my suggestion is to reach out to them and voice your opposition to this measure. Consider writing a letter or email as well.
Committee members can be found here: https://energycommerce.house.gov/representatives
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#129Looks like compelled speech to me, both for the operating system creator and the users. I do not believe that “interstate commerce” powers negate the first amendment.
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How can Congress put anything into a law saying that the courts can't override it? Doesn't that impinge on separation of powers?
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#130Nonsense bills get introduced all the time. I’m not saying this shouldn’t be taken seriously, but this eventually getting codified is a long shot.
There are so many issues with how this can work in practice. Best case it just asks how old you are like a website that shows mature content, and the user lies. So from a liability perspective that shifts it to the user who gave false information. Beyond that there’s no practical way to actually verify someone’s age at the OS level.