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Post by acomjean »

schwartzworld wrote: post #48

It's funny to think how much effort was put into preventing bootlegging, when now everything is being recorded all the time. The few bands that didn't care or even encouraged it reaped the benefits. I was a huge Ween fan in the 90s and bootlegged a show of theirs myself. Camera and recording devices were allowed and the result was a tremendous amount of live content available online. For some bands this might not mat…

As a student in the 90s I worked security for the student concert group on campus. We had to frisk people for Jello Briafa (Dead Kennedys) spoken word performance. I found a couple of tape decks, but those were allowed.

They still put a lot of effort sometimes. I saw Dave Chapelle in NYC and they made us put our phones in these pouches which were unsealed on exiting the show.

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Post by rolph »

gib444 wrote: post #113
rolph wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

also common UK slang, for someone who constantly does things in the grey. to wit: scammer, scheister, player.

That's incorrect. In British slang it means a customer/patron. In this context a fan/concertgoer (Source: I'm British)

interesting, so when a fellow is taken up by the cops, and he says "thers no punt, im telling you truth", is that unfamiliar?

i have a lot of different nationalities partaking of my wilderness lodge, and a lot of the younger english ones use punt/play/burn/scam as equivalent.

i can see how they could merge, considering a colloquial "punt" [rugby/footall] as a maneuver with adverse risk.

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Post by hardtke »

lokar wrote: post #44
ClifReeder wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is very much a among jam bands - see https://www.nugs.net/

That looks like just a subscription thing, right? I saw David Byrne last week, during checkout for the ticket I would probably have paid an extra $10 to get access to the recording of that show.

Phish gives people a code that lets them access the show they attend on livephish.com without a subscription. You can subscribe and get access to all of the shows. I think livephish.com is run by and/or shares the same platform as nugs.net but it's a different subscription.

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Post by pimlottc »

leviathant wrote: post #106
volkl48 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However, I do notice that for more uncommon music, the record industry sort it just looks the other way. For example Eminem has tons of really old music on YouTube that I’m sure his lawyers could figure out how to get taken down. But it just stays up. Or artists that have seen the merit in tolerating it/somewhat encouraging it. I'm a pretty hardcore Nine Inch Nails fan (seen >30 shows). NINLive.com is a fantastic (…

NIN had a messy breakup with their original manager about 15 years into things. Once Trent Reznor emerged as more or less a free agent, he embraced radical approaches to distributing music and other media. The instrumental album "Ghosts I-IV" was released under a Creative Commons BY-NC-SA license, and the music went everywhere - and you can draw a line directly from that choice to the Oscar for the score for The Soci…

Trent also famously mourned the closing of Oink.fm, at one time the world largest largest music torrent tracker

https://www.wired.com/2007/10/trent-reznor-on/

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Post by pimlottc »

standardly wrote: post #112

Some great commentary in here. I agree all games have loops, so the authors stance against them comes off as a bit confusing. I think what the author is getting at is when loops are obviosuly "felt" and feel canned. Strategy games typically have obvious, tight loops. Turn-based games are loop-driven by definition. And so on. This is fine. But single player games, single player RPGs, etc, can suffer if the loop is rea…

You probably meant to reply to a different post:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47764164

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Post by pimlottc »

101008 wrote: post #62
lokar wrote: post #18

Tangent idea: musicians should record every live show, and then put it on a streaming service, only for people who bought tickets to the show (possibly for an extra small fee on the ticket). Extra revenue for the artist, and a cool benefit for the fan (the liver performance you attended).

I love going to concerts and I tried pitching this to producers, bands, etc. They just don't care unfortunately. My mindset was: They already did most of the work, just exporting the audio (that already exists!) would give them extra income. Could be a subscription service, or pay per album, or even for free (it's a marketing channel). Some bands don't want their live recording out there (multiple reasons: from error…

There is also the legitimate view that a concert is a physical, ephemeral experience shared by the people in the room on the night. That is it fleeting is part of its beauty, in the same manner as live theater.

Which is not to say no concert should ever be recorded, but I could understand why it wouldn’t be a priority for some artists.

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Post by soneil »

buildsjets wrote: post #87
lokar wrote: post #18

Tangent idea: musicians should record every live show, and then put it on a streaming service, only for people who bought tickets to the show (possibly for an extra small fee on the ticket). Extra revenue for the artist, and a cool benefit for the fan (the liver performance you attended).

King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard (yes really) do this, but not just for people who buy tickets to the show. They have 444 concerts up on Archive.org for free to all. https://archive.org/details/KingGizzardAndTheLizardWizard Plenty of other artists have free concert archives at https://archive.org/details/etree

Sigur Ros have a surprising number of shows on their ftp, which is delightfully retro.
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