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Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by wqaatwt »

aduffy wrote: post #105
redox99 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google maps has done this forever. A good chunk of countries have disputed territories, and never in human history there has been a "universal" map that everybody agrees on.

Sure, but I'm in the US, which is not a party to the conflict between Israel and Lebanon. To my knowledge the US continues to recognize Lebanon as a sovereign country.

So does Israel, it’s not even a war with Lebanon it’s just happening there but the Lebanese government and armed are not participating in it

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by kashunstva »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #100
jampekka wrote: post #89

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There's also a huge cost for taking action about this especially in the US. You can easily get thrown out of school, have your career destroyed or be deported.

This is mostly a US thing. Netanyahu and Putin are two war criminals according to International Court of Justice. Although Trump threatened the ICJ, this doesn't change that basic fact.

> Although Trump threatened the ICJ

I’ve wondered, in the immediate aftermath of his recent genocidal threats, whether Mr. Trump was feeling left out of that club.

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by ajkjk »

cassianoleal wrote: post #85
Chance-Device wrote: post #70

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This goes beyond direct action by individuals, it’s completely obvious what’s happening and it happens because the US political system has been captured.

The US political system is this. It has not been recently "captured". This is business as usual for them.

it... feels... more captured than usual, lately

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by xg15 »

cma wrote: post #110
aduffy wrote: post #105

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Sure, but I'm in the US, which is not a party to the conflict between Israel and Lebanon. To my knowledge the US continues to recognize Lebanon as a sovereign country.

We had to build a very expensive and risky pier to get aid into to Gaza instead of just sending it through our ally Israel to be delivered over the ground. There's something different than a normal ally relationship.

A very expensive and risky pier that still just delivered the aid to an IDF base inside Gaza and not to Gazans (or aid orgs) directly. Based on a plan from an Israeli think tank...

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by wolvoleo »

wqaatwt wrote: post #121
aduffy wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but I'm in the US, which is not a party to the conflict between Israel and Lebanon. To my knowledge the US continues to recognize Lebanon as a sovereign country.

So does Israel, it’s not even a war with Lebanon it’s just happening there but the Lebanese government and armed are not participating in it

They hardly have electricity so there's nobody to fight back really. The international community left them to die after that big explosion and the country has been scraping by ever since.

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by forrestthewoods »

aduffy wrote: post #31
_2d30 wrote: post #16

Currently 50 points and is just a link to Apple Maps with an unverified claim. EDIT: I'm at -2 for stating a fact.

It is straightforward to visit any other online mapping service and see many villages labeled there. Bing: https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=33.185932%7E35.321974&lvl=11.9&... Google: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.1649913,35.2506666,11.55z OSM: https://www.openstreetbrowser.org/#map=11/33.1554/35.2890

I wish this thread had more discussion on why Apple Maps is missing the labels but Google and Bing are not. That’s awfully curious, no?

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by dang »

_2d30 wrote: post #41
boramalper wrote: post #32

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> The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. You can open the link and see it for yourself; what other "verification" do you need?

[flagged]

You've made your substantive point by asking whether the claim of removal is accurate. Please don't spoil that by breaking the site guidelines yourself, as you did here and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47742917 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47743106. That only makes things worse.

I agree with you that it isn't clear what's going on here. People are giving it an interpretation that feels obvious given the current context, and we don't yet know whether this interpretation is true.

Usually the obvious interpretation of an isolated internet factoid turns out not to be true.

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by overfeed »

wqaatwt wrote: post #121
aduffy wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but I'm in the US, which is not a party to the conflict between Israel and Lebanon. To my knowledge the US continues to recognize Lebanon as a sovereign country.

So does Israel, it’s not even a war with Lebanon it’s just happening there but the Lebanese government and armed are not participating in it

What's a little occupied, extra-territorial buffer zone between respectful neighbors? Nothing says "I respect your sovereignty" more leveling all buildings to the ground. Golan now, there's nothing to see here.

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by iugtmkbdfil834 »

redox99 wrote: post #95
aduffy wrote: post #11

This reminds me a bit of the Gulf of America fiasco from last year where if you changed your location to outside the US it would go back to showing Gulf of Mexico. I'm not sure why they would do this for US users unless the US government requested it.

Google maps has done this forever. A good chunk of countries have disputed territories, and never in human history there has been a "universal" map that everybody agrees on.

I think part of the weird disbelief on my part is the speed with which those changes are submitted and implemented. I don't recall things changing that fast with disputed territories in Ukraine/Russia conflict.

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by pixl97 »

devin wrote: post #115
aduffy wrote: post #105

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Sure, but I'm in the US, which is not a party to the conflict between Israel and Lebanon. To my knowledge the US continues to recognize Lebanon as a sovereign country.

Not a party to the conflict? Are you joking? Don’t focus on what the US says. Focus on what it does.

Yea, that user made the most ridiculous statement.

I think the Onion did a piece saying something like "Netanyahu dead, Trump must go back to being the only president of the United States", and while satire, is a bit enlightening of the actual situation here.

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