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The future of everything is lies, I guess – Part 5: Annoyances

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My father just changed his car key battery with the help of ai and he likes that. He also consulted it about about car insurance regulations and he got more out of it than searching the web himself. For most simple mainstream questions I just ask ai instead of googling shitty results. Most of the time ai is good enough and often better than the status ante. People do not care if it is a stupid token prediction machin…

Until you take a baby to the vaccine clinic, the nurse googles which vaccine to give at his age, and blindly trusts the highlighted AI snippet at the top. Not a fictitious example.

Sure, but that's an incredible level of incompetence, that I can only see would be expose otherwise outside of AI use. The entire list of what vaccines to give to what age group could fit on a single piece of paper.

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> Perhaps we’ll see distributed boycotts where many people deploy personal models to force Burger King’s models to burn through tokens at a fantastic rate. Given how many people hate AI in general, I'm surprised there hasn't been anything like this happening. They could even get around the irony of using "AI" themselves, I bet low-tech language models like Markov chains could provide sufficient time wasting potential…

Most people who hate AI have been completely dis-enfranchised by the system. The media won't amplificate their voices, any viable political leader that is seem as threat will be completely and utterly destroyed by the parties and the PAC machine still on the primaries. It is an incredibly vexing situation to see whatever you're an AI hater or enthusiast. I, for one, welcome our trillion parameters multiple layers ove…

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Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess – Part 5: Annoyances

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We are inseparable from technology. Technology which we cannot opt out of to live in a society. We do not get to pick and chose what types of technology we engage in. Dr. K predicted this decades ago and he was right.

we are 100% separable from technology and we can “opt out” everything we want to opt out, every technology use is by choice and convenience and not necessity. my Dad does not have a mobile or internet and is doing just fine, the only “technology” that exists in his life in TV and a landline. so absolutely 100% of the technology you engage with is by your own choice and absolutely nothing else

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess – Part 5: Annoyances

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I sent the entire series by Aphyr [1] to some friends. Two of them, independently, responded with a variant of, "TLDR, can you give a summary?" I chat with these friends a lot but I rarely send articles that I suggest they read and that I think are profound, so I expected them to read it. These are smart people that have a history of reading lots of books. They are both huge AI proponents now and use AI for nearly ev…

It's disheartening to see how shallow the engagement of some people I formerly respected has become. People I looked up to and learned from now just left ChatGPT do their thinking for them, asking for summaries of articles and topics, engaging for a minute or two at most before moving on to the next thing. Recently, I have been taking intentional steps to avoid falling into the same tar pit. I've started correspondin…

Great idea, thanks!

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be right but they used to read much more and our arguments used to be deeper. The changes I'm seeing in them are highly correlated to their increased use of AI. Maybe it's something like that AI allows them to indulge in their shallowness/laziness by giving them the impression that they're not doing that.

That's interesting; have you talked to your friends about their changes in behaviour? Is it something they've noticed themselves?

I've started down the path but I'm taking it delicately. The future may hold a whole new genre of interventions for AI atrophy.

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So basically more ways of trying to make people buy things, do things, think things than before? I feel like our whole world more and more circulates around manipulation and the absence of truth and discourse. Then again, I do think LLMs are an incredible technological achievement. The issue is not so much what they do or that they exist, but how they are utilized. Right now, they are utilized to further the class di…

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least phone trees are deterministic and there's still (usually) an option to get to a person for matters that aren't covered by the multiple choice options. Talking to AI is a much worse experience and the hope of the industry is that there won't need to be a human as a fallback anymore because (they believe) the AI is intelligent enough to handle anything.

I'm surprised to find so many people who consider human-based customer support a good experience. I wasted an hour on the phone last month with a series of polite support agents who I'm sure were wonderful people in their personal lives. They kept saying they'd like to try one more thing, making me wait 5 minutes (just short enough that I can't get anything done in the interim!), and then asking for one more pointles…

there are many human customer support systems where the goal is to frustrate you into saying something to make them hang up, or make you give up.

good, human customer service is a big margin my current company eats our competitors alive on

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess – Part 5: Annoyances

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My father just changed his car key battery with the help of ai and he likes that. He also consulted it about about car insurance regulations and he got more out of it than searching the web himself. For most simple mainstream questions I just ask ai instead of googling shitty results. Most of the time ai is good enough and often better than the status ante. People do not care if it is a stupid token prediction machin…

Until you take a baby to the vaccine clinic, the nurse googles which vaccine to give at his age, and blindly trusts the highlighted AI snippet at the top. Not a fictitious example.

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