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Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by Jensson »

amalcon wrote: post #117
Jensson wrote: post #99

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If you want to win elections, yes. You never convince voters by telling them that they are evil people. Its fine to say Trump is evil, its not fine to say Trump voters are evil because those voters will now be much less likely to vote for you. They can't take back their votes, they already voted for Trump before, so they will just not vote for you when you attack them like that.

Republicans have been calling democratic voters baby-killers for the entire time I have been aware of what a republican is. This sort of behavior has only gotten worse over time. They still manage to win elections. I get that there are real asymmetries here, but I really don't think there are substantial blocs of swing voters who use "who has insulted them less" as a real factor. If that were the case, Trump would no…

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Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by fhdkweig »

lifestyleguru wrote: post #50
andy_ppp wrote: post #44

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If only Hollywood had have let Trump be in more films than Home Alone 2, none of this would have happened!

That's a revenge for not letting him to play his character in Back to the Future.

Or in Super Mario Bros 1993

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by actionfromafar »

Arubis wrote: post #68
swarnie wrote: post #32

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> 2 years and 9 months remain You think. Peaceful transfers of power are always tricky in younger democracies.

My strong suspicion is that the current POTUS will leave the White House in a box. My hope is that this precedes the next election cycle.

Do you think the ThielVance will leave peacefully?

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by Jensson »

Arubis wrote: post #68
swarnie wrote: post #32

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> 2 years and 9 months remain You think. Peaceful transfers of power are always tricky in younger democracies.

My strong suspicion is that the current POTUS will leave the White House in a box. My hope is that this precedes the next election cycle.

The standard dictatorial takeover of a democracy is to keep the elections and the presidency, but to add a supreme leader above the president, similar to what Iran or Russia or China is doing. So Trump would no longer be president, he would be supreme leader joining what the other world powers are doing.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by morkalork »

rockemsockem wrote: post #98
morkalork wrote: post #73

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He's thiiiiiisss >< close to threatening to drop a nuke on Tehran isn't he

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If you're going to judge people's quality of online commentary, I can think of a "bigger fish to fry" than myself. They're even quoted in this very thread!

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by bigbadfeline »

Jensson wrote: post #78
devinplatt wrote: post #72

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I learned recently that there's actually a name for this concept. Murc's law states that in American politics, only Democrats are assumed to have agency. Presumably democratic reforms could help change the dynamic if they changed the incentives. Right now, it's a politically viable strategy to just obstruct the other party when out of power, and politically unviable strategy for Congress to oppose a president from th…

That is just progressive vs conservative, ie changing things vs conserving things, humans are biased to conserve things unless the set of changes are overwhelmingly better. So conservatives win when progressives push for too many changes, not changing things is the default. So saying that the democrats lost the election by pushing too fast is not weird, that is just how humans works.

> That is just progressive vs conservative, ie changing things vs conserving things.

Conserving distraction == wars, progressive distraction == LG, then B, then T, there are still letters in the alphabet to progress to - mandatory for school children to study in detail.

Conserving inflation same as progressive inflation, the small group benefiting form it - the same too.

Changing presidential candidates a few months before election and doing everything to let the other side win? Very progressive.

Promising no-more-wars and delivering more-wars? Very conservative.

Moral of the story - while 'progressive' and 'conservative' are used haphazardly, lacking precise and concrete definitions in terms of specific, measurable goals and commitments, using them for political analysis is just mud in the eyes.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by bebop »

actionfromafar wrote: post #123
Arubis wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My strong suspicion is that the current POTUS will leave the White House in a box. My hope is that this precedes the next election cycle.

Do you think the ThielVance will leave peacefully?

They don’t have the cult of personality to hold on to power in the same way djt does.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by adrian_b »

b0rtb0rt wrote: post #100
Shank wrote: post #42

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> The current Japanese leader is also a war mongerer, so I'd bet they also threatened to enter the war on USA's side if their ships weren't allowed to pass. The amount of misinformation foreign people have about Takaichi-san is staggering. She is by no means a "war mongerer" and the Japanese constitution has clear limits that prevent Japan from doing virtually anything. The reason why Japan can get a pass is because…

why are you adding japanese honorifics when the rest of your post is in english?

In non-English texts it is not unusual to see English honorifics like Sir, Lord, Lady, Duke etc. or even Dr., Mr., Mrs.

Similarly, in English texts it is not unusual to see foreign honorifics besides the actual names.

It is quite frequent for someone who otherwise does not speak another language to address foreigners as they would be addressed in their own language in formal situations where politeness is expected, e.g. using Herr or Frau for a German, and so on, or using Takaichi-san or Takaichi-sama (more formal) instead of translating that to Mrs. Takaichi.

I think that when speaking about a prime minister, formal language is not inappropriate.

Trump is probably the most obvious chief of state whose name would look completely inappropriate in the context of using formal polite language, but this should have been an exception.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by zzzeek »

Jensson wrote: post #25
zzzeek wrote: post #24

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none of those three people will be president

Then you can get rich by betting against it, so most people seem to disagree with you. And in a democracy most people decide who the next leader will be. https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics

betting markets aren't "most people"

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by shrubby »

e2le wrote: post #16
jghn wrote: post #5

Last week the US stated they didn't need any of the oil, and that if other countries wanted it they could go figure it out themselves. Looks like they have. And yet the US is now back to threatening Iran if they don't open up the oil.

We are 1 Year and 3 months into this current administration, 2 years and 9 months remain. Despite the short period in office, so much damage and chaos has being caused by one individual and the sycophants who surround him. It is a fact that the reputation of the USA has being damaged, perhaps not repairable for decades or more. This will have consequences. Perhaps, I hope, Americans will take action to save the democ…

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