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Re: Cursor 3

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Post by skor »

peder wrote: post #113
seamossfet wrote: post #11

Man, I wish they'd keep the old philosophy of letting the developer drive and the agent assist. I feel like this design direction is leaning more towards a chat interface as a first class citizen and the code itself as a secondary concern. I really don't like that. Even when I'm using AI agents to write code, I still find myself spending most of my time reading and reasoning about code. Showing me little snippets of…

> I feel like this design direction is leaning more towards a chat interface as a first class citizen and the code itself as a secondary concern. That's because that's exactly where we're headed, and it's fine.

NASA vibes all its note taking apps

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by rnxrx »

moregrist wrote: post #58
adityamwagh wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would they make money from the tokens then haha? The main revenue driver of these companies is to get people to use more tokens. That’s what they will optimise for. Getting the developers out of the way is the way to do it.

Does Cursor make money from tokens? I thought it was primarily a user of Anthropic and OpenAI APIs, so the fewer tokens you use to accomplish a task, the higher their margin.

Gemini is featured just as prominently, and they've most recently been pushing their own model series (Composer).

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by Sil_E_Goose »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #109
pjmlp wrote: post #20

What would all these companies do without Microsoft shipping VS Code as open source, probably still stuck with vi and Emacs. Still curious which ones will survive when the AI gold diggers finally settle.

every AI lab have cli for agent coding. you don't need VS Code. if you want coding agent to write code for you just use cli then use any IDE, text editor or whatever you prefer to review, edit or write code.

There is even a cli version of cursor.

https://cursor.com/cli

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by nprateem »

wilkystyle wrote: post #103
fragmede wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> have zero interest in these new "swarms of agents" they are trying to force on us from every direction. Good for you! Personally waiting for one agent to do something while I shove my thumb up my butt just waiting around for it to generate code that I'll have to fix anyway is peak opposite of flow state, so I've eagerly adopted agents (how much free will I had in that decision is for philosophers to decide) so ther…

I have personally found that I cannot context switch between thinking deeply about two separate problems and workstreams without a significant cognitive context-switching cost. If it's context-switching between things that don't require super-deep thought, it's definitely doable, but I'm still way more mentally burnt-out after an hour or two of essentially speed-running review of small PRs from a bunch of different s…

It's not that difficult. You get it to work on one deep problem, then another does more trivial bug fixes/optimizations, etc. Maybe in another you're architecting the next complex feature, another fixes tests, etc etc

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by eranation »

The biggest killer feature Cursor has that so far no one else seems to have is cloud based computer use. It’s such a game changer. You get a walkthrough video instead of just diffs. But as soon as anthropic release it (their computer use is local only, no thanks) I might consider switching though. Mostly due to the subsidized $200 plan.

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by dmix »

w29UiIm2Xz wrote: post #85
seamossfet wrote: post #11

Man, I wish they'd keep the old philosophy of letting the developer drive and the agent assist. I feel like this design direction is leaning more towards a chat interface as a first class citizen and the code itself as a secondary concern. I really don't like that. Even when I'm using AI agents to write code, I still find myself spending most of my time reading and reasoning about code. Showing me little snippets of…

As a Cursor user who hasn't tried Claude Code yet, am I missing anything? I seem (sometimes) exceptionally productive in it and it's working for me. To my understanding, Claude Code is all terminal, but something like an IDE seems like the better interface to me: I want to see the file system, etc. It seems Cursor doesn't have the mindshare relative to Claude in public discussion spaces.

It's good to try Claude Code just so you focus on skills, agents, and CLAUDE.md

Then when you go back to Cursor it will still support all of those things in the settings.

Using Cursor you tend to not think about those as much since Cursor does a lot of it for you as part of the IDE integration. But it's good to refine it your own way.

But for the most part there isn't much difference.

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by dmix »

visarga wrote: post #98
w29UiIm2Xz wrote: post #85

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As a Cursor user who hasn't tried Claude Code yet, am I missing anything? I seem (sometimes) exceptionally productive in it and it's working for me. To my understanding, Claude Code is all terminal, but something like an IDE seems like the better interface to me: I want to see the file system, etc. It seems Cursor doesn't have the mindshare relative to Claude in public discussion spaces.

I run Claude Code from Zed. Very nice experience.

I tried that for a couple weeks and it's no where near as well integrated as Cursor. I hope they get there though because I like Zed.

Zed plus Claude feels more like using isolated browser extensions instead of something part of the browser (unless you pay for Zeds AI thing then the integration is marginally better).

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by ryandrake »

nu11ptr wrote: post #111
fragmede wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> have zero interest in these new "swarms of agents" they are trying to force on us from every direction. Good for you! Personally waiting for one agent to do something while I shove my thumb up my butt just waiting around for it to generate code that I'll have to fix anyway is peak opposite of flow state, so I've eagerly adopted agents (how much free will I had in that decision is for philosophers to decide) so ther…

> Personally waiting for one agent to do something while I shove my thumb up my butt just waiting around for it to generate code that I'll have to fix anyway I spend that time watching it think and then contemplating the problem further since often, as deep and elaborate as my prompts are, I've forgotten something. I suspect it might be different if you are building something like a CRUD app, but if you are building…

In my workflow, it's totally interactive: Give the LLM some instructions, wait very briefly, look at code diff #1, correct/fix it before approving it, look at code diff #2, correct/fix it before approving it, sometimes hitting ESC and stopping the show because the agent needs to be course corrected... It's an active fight. No way I'm going to just "pre-approve all" and walk away to get coffee. The LLMs are not ready for that yet.

I don't know how you'd manage a "swarm" of agents without pre-approving them all. When one has a diff, do you review it, and then another one comes in with an unrelated diff, and you context switch and approve that, then a third one comes in with a tool use it wants to do... That sounds absolutely exhausting.

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by vira28 »

nu11ptr wrote: post #88
w29UiIm2Xz wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Cursor user who hasn't tried Claude Code yet, am I missing anything? I seem (sometimes) exceptionally productive in it and it's working for me. To my understanding, Claude Code is all terminal, but something like an IDE seems like the better interface to me: I want to see the file system, etc. It seems Cursor doesn't have the mindshare relative to Claude in public discussion spaces.

Claude Code isn't really "all terminal" if you embed that terminal in your IDE. I still use Cursor (for now), but I embed a CC panel via extension. With this launch of Cursor 3, I'll probably get off Cursor for good. I have zero interest in this.

Curious, why cursor for this? VSCode or pretty much pure open source IDE's have CC integration. Or am i missing something?

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by nprateem »

seamossfet wrote: post #46
wiradikusuma wrote: post #41

Maybe I'm old, but I only recently started using Gemini to assist me in coding. Now it seems everyone is heading to giving agents to do the full-blown coding. I guess if the result code is good, it doesn't matter who's coding (me or AI). But are they affordable already for developers who don't earn a Silicon Valley salary? Developers in 3rd world countries?

I'm not convinced people who are doing real work on production applications with any sizable user base is writing code through only agents. There's no way to get acceptable code from these models without really knowing your code base well and basically doing all the systems thinking for the model. Your workflow is probably closer to what most SWEs are actually doing.

Not true. As long as you don't blindly accept their garbage and keep things behind sensible interfaces so you can reimplement if necessary, and have good tests you're fine
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