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Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by ahartmetz »

amiga386 wrote: post #82
consp wrote: post #37

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A pint in the Netherlands usually is 500ml. In very rare cases, but only in real pubs (not mass market "Irish" pubs) you get an actual pint. So you are cheated out of about ~68ml in that case. Vs the US you get a few ml more.

As far as I knew, Netherlands pubs typically sold: - 200ml "fluitje" (little flute) - 250ml "pintje" (little pint), often sold in a "vaasje" (vase, a tapered beer glass). This is the typical beer measure: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pintje "Het bestelde glas pils heeft doorgaans een inhoud van 25 cl" They also sell standard bottled beer in 300ml and standard cans in 330ml: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standaardgla…

The Maß is only a thing in Bavaria and strongly Bavarian-themed places, and almost nonexistent for bottles or cans anywhere in Germany. Faxe (which is Danish) sells one liter cans and some Czech brands sell or used to sell 1.5 liter plastic bottles - that's about it. The next common size is 5 liter mini kegs.

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by stego-tech »

This is the sort of goodness the internet was made for. I'm no beer drinker myself, but I'm already sharing it with those in my circles who do.

Also a great way to teach folks on how to hold others honest and accountable, a skill sorely underdeveloped at present. Start with the pours, and push upward from there.

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by bluGill »

Gormo wrote: post #106
bluGill wrote: post #13

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In the US every gas pump I've seen (I have not check the majority of states, but still a good sample) has a sticker on it stating inspections and who runs the state department that inspects them. Usually it is a yearly inspection (at least according to the sticker, maybe they do it more often I don't know)

Not just gas pumps, but any measuring device used to determine the price of a metered product. The scales at the register at supermarkets also have calibration stickers in my state.

Now that you mention it, I've seen them at some grocery stores - but generally not in a place I'd be looking unlike gas pumps where is is right next to the price and so you won't miss it.

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by goosejuice »

Johnny555 wrote: post #120
goosejuice wrote: post #114

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There's a distinct difference between food retail and food service. This kind of regulation will harm the later, it does not belong. Are we going to weigh every pizza, every omelette, every side of fries too? We don't need to sterilize every single part of our food culture. Anyone who has spent even a short amount of time in the food service business will be familiar with shrink. The average bar is probably seeing mo…

Bars are dying and are on thin margins so they have to do short pours, but if I just talk to a bartender, he'll give me plenty of free beer?

Yes, generally food service operates on thin margins. A neighborhood brewery probably won't be profitable for the first few years, then if successful might stabilize around 15% net* profit margin.

If you go to a beer bar or a tap room, a large part of the role of a bartender is helping you find beer that you like. Successful bars and bartenders thrive from repeat customers. Community is important. This is very obvious if you actually sit down at bars and talk to the people behind them.

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by mrwh »

rafram wrote: post #104
bee_rider wrote: post #89

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At this point they are just American units, right? Since the UK has upgraded already.

Not really. The UK uses imperial units for most of the things you use units for in daily life (roads, cooking, drink sizes, body weight, utilities, land area...), even though they theoretically converted to metric. Canada is similar.

_Human_ body weight. I grew up measuring everything in kilos apart from people, which has I guess what amounts to its own wholly idiosyncratic scale, the stone, that no one I've since met outside of the UK has heard of.

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by scoofy »

I discovered long ago that you might as well order a can in the states because you'll pay less and get effectively the same amount of beer.

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by zabzonk »

hencq wrote: post #118
zabzonk wrote: post #105

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I'm not denying this, but I do remember a jug of beer being ordered and me being asked to pour it into several glasses without noticeable markings, and me trying to end up with about a 1/4 inch of head as I would in the UK and my Dutch friends yelling "more head" or something even less than polite. Mostly in the NL I drink bottled beer. And I'm a Yorkshire man, at least by birth.

Yeah, in the Netherlands 2 finger widths is the norm. But if it's more than that, people will get upset that you're pouring them milk.

I really liked working in the NL, but their food and drink I could not get used to. I did a bit of consultancy at KLM, and what was offered for lunch in the cafeteria turned my stomach - artificial meat, artificial bread. I complained about this to one of the KLM staffers I was working with - "We know, We know, and of course the bosses never eat here"

Also, the Dutch idea of Chinese food is very strange (basically some sort of Indonesian thing - and I like Indonesian, but not that).

Anyway you in no way requested a critique of Dutch cuisine, but I'm glad I got it off my chest. So, apologies.

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by dghf »

ascorbic wrote: post #94
bee_rider wrote: post #89

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At this point they are just American units, right? Since the UK has upgraded already.

Beer and cider are the only drinks that are legally not sold by metric volume in the UK. They have to be served by the pint, 2/3, 1/2 or 1/3. Every other drink has to use metric.

But that just means the quantity has to be expressed in metric units, possibly in addition to imperial, correct? E.g. I currently have a carton of milk in my fridge that’s labelled “2272ml 4 pints”.

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by dghf »

cjs_ac wrote: post #36
dghf wrote: post #29

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This is why I get agitated when Americans claim to use imperial units. If they did, their pints would be the correct size.

Americans don't claim to use imperial weights and measures; they use customary weights and measures, which were also used in the UK prior to the creation of imperial units with the Weights and Measures Act 1824.

Many Americans do claim to use imperial units. They’re wrong, but they do claim it.

Re: Is it a pint?

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Post by neuronflux »

lbourdages wrote: post #84
ch_123 wrote: post #14

In the UK and Ireland, a pint is 20 oz. (equivalent to just over 19 US ounces), so I always feel cheated by 16 oz. "pint" glasses in the US.

It is the same in Canada [1] yet I frequently see beer sold in "US pints" over here. I assume they do it so they can advertise cheaper prices (the amount being smaller). Some places will write the glass size in ounces, but some won't. It is one of my pet peeves for sure. [1]: https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/measurement-canada/en/buyin...

Also Canadian. I don't often see "pint" on the menu, usually something like "16oz." Evidently restaurateurs and bar owners are wise to the law. Though I am pleased when I see "20oz" on the menu!

I kind of understand the logic by not serving 20oz and saying "pint". Customers might avoid a place because their "pints are more expensive", when in reality that place is also serving them 4oz of extra beer. A bit like the classic 1/3 lb cheeseburger being "smaller"[1].

Annoyingly, I do find that servers will often refer to their larger size beer as "pint" regardless of whatever the menu says.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-pound_burger#Marketing_f...

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