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Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by DaSHacka »

nslsm wrote: post #54
pjmlp wrote: post #31

Is this really a thing?!? Blasting the others with unwanted noise. I never been in a flight, or train across Europe where passengers showed just lack of respect for the others. The only ones pumping anything loud, on trains or busses, usually get quickly pointed down by other passengers, personal or security. Ah, and then there are the rebellious kids or gangs, as the other exception, which usually don't take flights…

That's because in Europe certain demographics don't catch many planes or trains. But they do catch the tube or the bus, so get on one of those and enjoy the experience.

Lol was wondering how long I would have to scroll before someone pointed out the obvious. People talking about the "collapse of the societal contract", like I wonder how that happened....

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Post by lesuorac »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #117
callamdelaney wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is walking over a road without a light inconveniencing anyone? I’ll cross the road when it’s clear. I don’t blast music in public places though.

> How is walking over a road without a light inconveniencing anyone? They said “walk out into traffic.” That’s rude. You should wait for a signal or a break in the flow so nobody has to brake for you.

Getting pedantic now but depending on the circumstances the traffic is supposed to have stopped for you.

Assuming there is no paint on the road an (unmarked) crosswalk may still exist [1] and drivers are supposed to yield to a pedestrian in a marked or unmarked crosswalk [2].

[1]: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio....

[2]: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by cjbgkagh »

pjmlp wrote: post #31

Is this really a thing?!? Blasting the others with unwanted noise. I never been in a flight, or train across Europe where passengers showed just lack of respect for the others. The only ones pumping anything loud, on trains or busses, usually get quickly pointed down by other passengers, personal or security. Ah, and then there are the rebellious kids or gangs, as the other exception, which usually don't take flights…

Very much a thing and one of the many reasons I'm becoming more of a recluse, shared public spaces are becoming rather unpleasant. Mostly in the US and LatAm, a fair amount in the UK, not so much in Germany.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by dguest »

saint11 wrote: post #18
chisel192 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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But kicking someone off mid-flight at high altitude is still a bit harsh. I hope they give them parachutes at least.

FUN FACT: Aviation rules require that any plane carrying a parachute must have at least one for every person on board. Hopefully the reason is obvious.

Now given that, do you really want to pay the extra cost of flying with 300 parachutes just so mr-full-volume-phone can have one?

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by wolfi1 »

pjmlp wrote: post #31

Is this really a thing?!? Blasting the others with unwanted noise. I never been in a flight, or train across Europe where passengers showed just lack of respect for the others. The only ones pumping anything loud, on trains or busses, usually get quickly pointed down by other passengers, personal or security. Ah, and then there are the rebellious kids or gangs, as the other exception, which usually don't take flights…

it's usually some guy on the neighbouring table at McDonald's

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by DaSHacka »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #114
Hamuko wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Harsh, but fair.

Now explain why it wouldn’t also be fair to kick people off that were loudly emitting disgusting flatulence. Is it because they “might” not have control over it? Can I not claim I also “might” not have the control over my impulsive desire to listen to music or that I can’t use headphones for a medical issue? I mean such a thing I would say equally detracts from the flying experience, so why not also kick those people…

You'd have a more convincing argument if you argued for a passenger with Tourette's or something. Bodily functions are obviously different from watching a movie at full volume, because there's never a situation where you would be involuntarily blasting the audio of your show or whatever to the whole plane.

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Post by plagiarist »

y1n0 wrote: post #92
e40 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea someone doesn’t know they bothering everyone around them is absurd. It is 100% malice.

I’m sure it is, much of the time. But I also believe many people are just completely self absorbed and devoid of empathy.

I am self-absorbed and devoid of empathy but it is still easy to logically deduce that other people don't want to hear my games, videos, or phone calls.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

DaSHacka wrote: post #127
SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now explain why it wouldn’t also be fair to kick people off that were loudly emitting disgusting flatulence. Is it because they “might” not have control over it? Can I not claim I also “might” not have the control over my impulsive desire to listen to music or that I can’t use headphones for a medical issue? I mean such a thing I would say equally detracts from the flying experience, so why not also kick those people…

You'd have a more convincing argument if you argued for a passenger with Tourette's or something. Bodily functions are obviously different from watching a movie at full volume, because there's never a situation where you would be involuntarily blasting the audio of your show or whatever to the whole plane.

Okay, Tourette’s then. Should we kick people off for Tourette’s?

Your comment also presupposes two things: that flatulence is always involuntary and blasting music isn’t. Let’s say I have a form of Tourette’s that forces me to involuntarily blast noise and music and I have medical papers to prove it. Is it okay then?

I would absolutely support it if you could demonstrate that those two things are actually true. My point is: Who gets to decide what’s legitimately an involuntary medical issue and what isn’t, and where is the line that demarcates it? And what is the point of this exercise? It’s to prevent people from forcing everyone else to have a worse experience for their own personal gain, which flatulence is a form of that you could argue, so why is blasting music fundamentally different?

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