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Our commitment to Windows quality

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Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by BoredPositron »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #111
ChicagoDave wrote: post #105

No one wants copilot. You can make it an app, but any OS level integration is a non-starter. My next laptop will be a MacBook Pro. My Surface Laptop 5 will be collecting dust in case I need it, but that’s highly unlikely.

Or onedrive integrations and constant ‘backup your computer now’ popups which are _advertisements_ for onedrive, or Netflix, Spotify, or LinkedIn pre-installed and difficult to remove, or all of the above reinstalling during windows updates. In fact, basically any feature added since Windows 10 is probably unwanted.

You know maybe OneDrive wouldn't suck as much if it was a native app and not qt.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by twobitshifter »

rgovostes wrote: post #67

To demonstrate the seriousness of their commitment to Windows quality, you can now move the taskbar to the left side of the screen. No no, it's not vaporware, they even included four screenshots. Everyone can rest assured now.

A feature they removed due to their inability to make it performant in Windows 11 A feature that existed as early as win95. The most requested change in user voice, since the earliest windows 11 betas.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

pianoben wrote: post #116
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or onedrive integrations and constant ‘backup your computer now’ popups which are _advertisements_ for onedrive, or Netflix, Spotify, or LinkedIn pre-installed and difficult to remove, or all of the above reinstalling during windows updates. In fact, basically any feature added since Windows 10 is probably unwanted.

As if Apple doesn't berate you with unskippable notifications to sign up for iCloud, buy more space, etc etc?

Comparing windows to an OS I don’t use isn’t a fair comparison unless my work machine stops being windows. I assume Apple are a slightly less variant of bad though

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by the_snooze »

xvector wrote: post #36
binsquare wrote: post #16

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Don't congratulate yet until you see actual outcomes. The author of this commitment is the same person (Pavan Davuluri) spearheading move of Windows into an Agentic OS: https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/windows-...

Absolutely nothing wrong with an "agentic OS", agentic UX is the future of personal computing. The ideal is that something intelligent understands what you want to do and gets it done. Unless you really think we've reached the pinnacle of user interface with repetitive clicking around and menus. The problem is with shoving AI down user's throats. Make it an option, not the only option.

We’ve had computing technology that clearly understands what the user wants to do. It’s called a command line interface. No guessing, no recommendations, no dark patterns, no bullshit.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by kiicia »

Someone1234 wrote: post #6

They're saying all the right things here. Fixing long-standing complaints, removing Copilot from obnoxious places, improvements to Windows Update and Windows Explorer stability/microstutter/lag, etc. I congratulate them on seeing sense, and I congratulate Apple on another victory with the Neo. Kind of frustrating that's what it took for Microsoft to finally listen to their userbase.

This is just cheap damage control, just wait and see if they actually do all of those things correctly. Slow file explorer was an issue since very beginning of windows 11 and they "fix" it only now? But they took time to add copilot to snippet tool?

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by 9991 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #95
matheusmoreira wrote: post #56

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The Windows computer I have to use at work takes over 15 seconds to start the new calculator app. The old calculator launched instantly.

I've seen that too. I discovered Calculator was doing a DNS lookup for some reason, and that slow DNS resolution was the cause... That's a why , but it raises more questions than it does answers.

Arithmetic may have updated.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by bdangubic »

nixpulvis wrote: post #109
ChicagoDave wrote: post #105

No one wants copilot. You can make it an app, but any OS level integration is a non-starter. My next laptop will be a MacBook Pro. My Surface Laptop 5 will be collecting dust in case I need it, but that’s highly unlikely.

So Apple Intelligence doesn't bother you?

You like it you turn it On, you don’t you turn it Off

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by nixpulvis »

packetlost wrote: post #115
nixpulvis wrote: post #109

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So Apple Intelligence doesn't bother you?

Apple Intelligence has a global off button that actually works. It's unobtrusive anyways. Copilot on the other hand...

So the issue isn't actually that it's baked into the OS, it's that you should have control over when it's used.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

BoredPositron wrote: post #121
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or onedrive integrations and constant ‘backup your computer now’ popups which are _advertisements_ for onedrive, or Netflix, Spotify, or LinkedIn pre-installed and difficult to remove, or all of the above reinstalling during windows updates. In fact, basically any feature added since Windows 10 is probably unwanted.

You know maybe OneDrive wouldn't suck as much if it was a native app and not qt.

I don’t care if it had the best UX of all apps on windows. I don’t want or need data scraping in the form of cloud storage.

Edit: but I am somewhat surprised that it’s qt and not the typical react electron bloat that Microsoft is slopping out. I’m sure it’s only a matter of time.

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