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Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by cogman10 »

kakacik wrote: post #98
bhouston wrote: post #49

For those wondering, it is verifiable story, it is covered as fact in Israeli newspapers: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-forces-kill-west-bank-... https://www.ynetnews.com/article/p7mq5k5bs The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe. The New York Times describes it as such: "Ali Bani Odeh’s wife and four young boys hadn’t seen him i…

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> this is war 101

The west bank isn't at war with Israel. There wasn't some conflict or event that has justified these actions.

I wish people understood this better. Even if you could manage to justify what's happening in gaza as "this is war", Gaza and the west bank are separate entities with separate governments. The west bank, in particular, is more like an Indian reservation in the US, with the Israeli government effectively exercising supremacy over all aspects of the government.

Theoretically, the IDF is supposed to be the police force for the west bank. That's why they occupy it.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by worik »

bhouston wrote: post #25
GalaxyNova wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zionism is the idea that the Jewish people deserve a national state. Being anti-Zionist is equivalent to wanting Israel to not exist as a national state.

Zionism is currently realized as an apartheid system because there are too many non-Jews within the borders of Israel. The solution should have been two-states, but it seems that current Israeli leadership doesn't want that. So what is left? https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/11/israels-netanyahu-s...

> The solution should have been two-states,

Perhaps. But at a lower level the solution is justice

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by jll29 »

bhouston wrote: post #49

For those wondering, it is verifiable story, it is covered as fact in Israeli newspapers: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-forces-kill-west-bank-... https://www.ynetnews.com/article/p7mq5k5bs The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe. The New York Times describes it as such: "Ali Bani Odeh’s wife and four young boys hadn’t seen him i…

A certain amount of politics should/must be tolerated on HN, because you cannot compartmentalize technology, politics and morality.

No-one, not even people who say they like technology but do not care about politics, should be able to live their life wihtout knowing that we live in a world where six-year old blind children are murdered with automatic assault rifles.

(For the same reason that no-one should be able to live not knowing that jewish once were murdered in the millions in gas chambers.)

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by layer8 »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #103
itsangaris wrote: post #53

I see people saying this story doesn't belong on HN. genuine question, if this story were about a german national would it be considered as political? is palestinian existence inherently more political than other peoples' existence?

Every time these sorts of articles get posted people that express a differing opinion from the standard get flagged (making it so you can't read their post at all) pretty quickly making it seem more like the intention isn't to start discussion. It seems like it's gotten to the point that the people that just get flagged into oblivion stopped trying to post.

FWIW, you can read flagged posts and comments by turning on “showdead” in your profile.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by throw310822 »

aristofun wrote: post #92
throw310822 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it is very unfortunate and we as a society feel bad for this > Sick pro palys... Lol. And you as a society don't feel bad for illegally occupying and colonising other people's territory? Why don't you withdraw within your borders?

> Why don't you withdraw within your borders? They already did that multiple times with no positive outcomes whatsoever, go learn some history

No that actually never happened. The very day Israel declared its independence its army was already outside the territory proposed for it by the UN's partition plan. Israel itself never declared what its borders were.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by cogman10 »

HDThoreaun wrote: post #64

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Unfortunately, even in this comment section, you see people conflating the two. People don't realize that Palestinians live in both the west bank and gaza or that there are 2 different government for the west bank and gaza.
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