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Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Post by orangecoffee »

vips7L wrote: post #41
verelo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's likely not all this, but i expect an element is: there is a meaningful number of people essentially refusing to work with AI. Antidotal but I have spoken to friends at Google who are telling me many co-workers say "I tried it didn't work, ill do it myself" when really they just didn't try very hard at all.

Does it matter how someone gets their work done as long as its done on time? Why does using a specific tool matter?

Dude, the time for work is going down drastically, about a third of before. Are you not facing it?

Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Post by thoman23 »

bdcravens wrote: post #116
karim79 wrote: post #97

I see. So AI is reducing the number of jobs in the tech sector because fewer people are needed to ship stuff (thanks to AI). And since fewer people are needed across the tech sector then we don't need things like Jira anymore because it can all be done on post-its or Google sheets or something, so there's no need for Atlassian accounts anymore. And Atlassian can now do more with less thanks to AI. I can't wait for At…

In many cases, sticky notes are more productive.

Where "many cases" all involve a team of 2 to 5 people working together in the same room and never bringing work home.

Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Post by [deleted] »

bdcravens wrote: post #116
karim79 wrote: post #97

I see. So AI is reducing the number of jobs in the tech sector because fewer people are needed to ship stuff (thanks to AI). And since fewer people are needed across the tech sector then we don't need things like Jira anymore because it can all be done on post-its or Google sheets or something, so there's no need for Atlassian accounts anymore. And Atlassian can now do more with less thanks to AI. I can't wait for At…

In many cases, sticky notes are more productive.

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Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Post by fyrn_ »

dozerly wrote: post #118
notfried wrote: post #114

If they are paying them 6-month severances like Block did, this means they are effectively saying 1,600 people for 6-months wouldn't have fixed JIRA's usability and performance, which if they could have done like many have been begging, they'd would probably make more money long-term than this firing would save.

I wholeheartedly believe that they could not have fixed it with 9,600 people months of work. They haven’t been able to fix it with many multiples of that.

They need to just clean slate start from skratch. I don't believe that code base can be saved. AI means it's easy to copy any SAAS now right? so should be easy /s

Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Post by Refreeze5224 »

dozerly wrote: post #120
Refreeze5224 wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're mixing up what AI is for compared to horses and cars. Horses/cars enable people to be more efficient. AI enables companies to fire people. Horses/cars improve productivity. AI reduces payroll costs. That's the whole game here.

The assumption behind this comment is that AI is more productive than Human + AI at this point in time, and I don’t think we’ve seen that be true yet.

No, the assumption is that companies are more interested in cutting labor costs than productivity. Even if you screw up and need to hire back 50% of those you fired, you still cut the labor costs of the 50% still fired. And you can pretend to be a cool, thought-leading, "AI-native" company, which might be enough to juice your share price enough to offset any actual productivity loss.

Capital will always be in opposition to the cost of labor and want to make it as close to zero as possible, and AI is a plausible story for attempting that, regardless of the reality of AI efficiency.

Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Post by kanyesrthaker »

The 1,600 number blew my mind, and then I realized Atlassian employs almost 16,000. Kind of crazy.

Either way, I'd expect that those 1,600 people using AI to solve Atlassian's big problems would be better for the company in the long-run than reducing headcount with the same level of output

Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Post by lousken »

kgeist wrote: post #110
lousken wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've switched to Jetbrains Youtrack, it doesn't have as many features, but turns out nobody was using most of them anyway. It's Jira + Confluence bundled together including SSO.

We (~200 devs) migrated from Jira to Youtrack 10 years ago, and its functionality has been more than enough. Honestly, I don't remember anyone ever seriously complaining about it, aside from maybe a few nitpicks. A very solid product.

My biggest pet peeve is the lack of sorting and filtering options in tables, especially on wiki. Can't complain about anything else

Re: Atlassian to cut roughly 1,600 jobs in pivot to AI

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Post by pm90 »

hlpn wrote: post #9
TutleCpt wrote: post #5

Where are the most popular alternatives to Jira?

Linear is great

Second this. Funnily, their AI is pretty good... recently I accidentally created a dupe ticket; linear AI realized that, labeled it as a dupe instantly after I created an issue. Fuck JIRA and confluence to hell.
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