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I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Dwarkesh is your run-of-the-mill vapid influencer idiot. Fridman on the other hand, when in the presence of greatness, knows to STFU and listen.

His Zelensky interview suggests otherwise

It's interesting that's the only interview when he challenged someone.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Great take. If the past year has taught us anything, it’s that the US can’t really be seen as the “good guys” in such a simple way. Many of these things have been happening for years, but war crimes, disregard for international law, blackmailing allies, killing their own citizens without accountability, and allowing foreign governments to heavily influence policy are all troubling signs. It’s easy to point to China a…

> If the past year has taught us anything, it’s that the US can’t really be seen as the “good guys” in such a simple way. More like the past 200 years. America have never been the "good guys", and it is only Americans who seem to think they ever were.

To be fair, almost every society portrays itself as the defender of whatever is right/good.

And, to be equally as fair, the only genuinely good guys are the ones that are too small to enforce their will upon others directly - small countries without arms who are forced to find other ways to engage with others in order to achieve whatever goals they have (resource acquisition)

The Americans have been extremely adept at dominating the discourse via non-government pathways (Hollywood)

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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> So what’s the Pentagon’s plan — to coerce and threaten to destroy every single company that won’t give them what they want on exactly their terms? I mean... isn't that pretty much the way the current administration behaves in general? If the answer to this question is "yes", and the US executive does not in fact share the values of the author about free and open society, then the rest of the article is kinda moot (…

As much as I dislike Trump, I can't imagine that the military, under ANY administration, would hesitate to seize any technology that they thought was critical and was being withheld from them, especially if they can claim we're at war when special provisions apply.

I remember thinking about this - basically AGI - decades ago, and it was always obvious to me that if you created such a thing there'd come a day when the MIB would be ringing the doorbell.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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I don't see anyone arguing that we'd be better off with China, but I am arguing that neither the US or China can be trusted with this, so the author positing "US AI dominance good to keep China at bay" is bad.

You quoted the article: > The whole background of this AI conversation is that we’re in a race with China, and we have to win. But what is the reason we want America to win the AI race? Right now there are two contenders for first in the AI race. The US, and China. You spent the rest of your comment making the case that it is not good for the US to win. Implying, though not directly saying, we would be better off wit…

> You spent the rest of your comment making the case that it is not good for the US to win. Implying, though not directly saying, we would be better off with China.

This is you putting words in my mouth. It's bad if either wins.

You seem to be operating under an unspoken personal belief that an AI race "win" inevitably spills out into global dominance.

I don't know that it won't, but you likewise don't know that it will, and I'm not beholden to debate things from your chosen premise.

I think AI will be bad for whoever is being targeted by it's controllers, but I don't think it will intrinsically disrupt the military spheres that exist now as a result of nuclear weaponry.

China will use its AI to hurt the people it's hurting now.

The US will use its AI to hurt the people it's hurting now.

Imho, the idea of an AI arms race "winner" is just the new face of the securitization rhetoric that we used to justify our military excursionism during the Cold War.

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The author is naive. > The whole background of this AI conversation is that we’re in a race with China, and we have to win. But what is the reason we want America to win the AI race? It’s because we want to make sure free open societies can defend themselves. We don’t want the winner of the AI race to be a government which operates on the principle that there is no such thing as a truly private company or a private c…

There is nothing unconstitutional about the first paragraph of your criticism. What is unconstitutional is restricting your ability to write this criticism, which is not breached. You _could_ argue that this is a flaw in the constitution, and that none of the above should be legal, and that people who support those things should be restricted in their speech or ability to hold office. This was the status quo in polit…

Please point out where I "fellated" China.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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One thing I’ve never heard a good answer to: If Anthropic is a supplier not to the Department of Defense itself, but to Palantir, why isn’t supply chain risk the proper designation (assuming the government’s concerns with Anthropic having authority over military missions is valid)? As for whether code written with Claude Code should be so considered - if it’s just code that is subject to human review, I would argue t…

I'm not sure that "supply chain risk" is even the right term to be discussing. What Hegseth/Trump want to do is not just stop Anthropic models from being used by any military supplier pursuant to goods/services they are providing to the military, but rather say that if you do business with the military then you must not use Anthropic at all, even if that usage is entirely unrelated to your military contracts.

This is explicitly not what they have done, not how government contractors ever interpret this designation, nor something they could do even if they wanted to do.

It is also common corporate doctrine to use a subsidiary for government contracting to avoid having to evidence that a commercial vendor is utilized for government, so this won't even be 'annoying' for contractors.

ITAR and compliance frameworks (e.g. FedRAMP and CMMC) already mandate this for any non-US company, yet AWS commercial still has offerings in other countries and from non-US vendors, Palantir still has an IG business, etc.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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There is nothing unconstitutional about the first paragraph of your criticism. What is unconstitutional is restricting your ability to write this criticism, which is not breached. You _could_ argue that this is a flaw in the constitution, and that none of the above should be legal, and that people who support those things should be restricted in their speech or ability to hold office. This was the status quo in polit…

Please point out where I "fellated" China.

Saying the US is not a better country on terms of freedom and goodness?

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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"Within 20 years 99% of the military will be AIs" That smells like such a baseless speculation that from the get go I'm not convinced of the author's rigor.

It’s also just a category error. It’s like saying that 99% of farm workers are tractors or 99% of textile workers are looms.

Do you not think a change in knowledge work similar in scale to the industrialization of agriculture would be significant?

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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But the "Anthropic fight" is mostly fake. Palantir was using Claude as base model. Anthropic allegedly took issue with unsupervised kills because the technology wasn't ready (or something along the lines). Also, I remember reading this guy has close ties to Anthropic. Also, I find it suspicious how he came to prominence out of nowhere. Like Big Tech and the establishment are propping podcasts of controlled narrative/…

>I find it suspicious how he came to prominence out of nowhere

He was first funded by FTX

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