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Re: Plasma Bigscreen – 10-foot interface for KDE plasma

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Post by cyberrock »

tapoxi wrote: post #54
cromka wrote: post #16

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I did, but I don't share the sentiment. Moved this year from macOS and KDE is over-engineered with little thought put into the UX. For example, try to take a screenshot. I was quite literally shaking my head for good couple minutes looking at this abomination. It's so extremely confusing, all over the place, bogged down with tons of switches, modes, it's like you need to spend 30 minutes to understand how this thing…

I just hit printscreen and save, I think you may be confusing your familiarity with a system with user friendliness. For comparison, MacOS doesn't have a printscreen key, it's command-shift-3 or command-shift-4. Much more confusing to newcomers in my experience.

Spectacle used to just let you automatically save with no confirmation dialog, then they changed that a year or so ago. Maybe it's still possible to configure it but I was less than happy to have my default changed.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen – 10-foot interface for KDE plasma

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Post by jorvi »

Oanid wrote: post #81
olivierestsage wrote: post #7

Big things from KDE lately. If you haven't tried it since the pre-Plasma days, I really recommend giving it a go. Fabulous as a general DE.

I'd have to disagree with you on that one. I recently migrated to Fedora from Windows 11, which gave me the chance to try Plasma, GNOME, and a couple other desktops. Plasma is exactly what I don't want in a DE. It’s extremely configurable, but also overwhelming, and I don’t think that’s something the average user would feel comfortable navigating. I ended up choosing GNOME. It feels visually cohesive, and the design…

Not only that, because it has so many options and more of a bazaar-style development, nothing is optimized.

Right now the systray has a very ugly delay when opening applets like WiFi or sound. Up to 1.5 seconds (!). This doesn't happen with the applets bare in the menu bar, so there must be some sort of negative interaction there between the systray code and applet code.

This is on a bog standard KDE install too.

I don't like Gnome's high and mighty attitude either, especially because it chases people away from making bug reports or contributing. And when 90%+ of your users uses a particular extension (Dash to Dock), maybe make that behaviour integrated and the default.

At this point my hope is squarely aimed at PopOS' COSMIC environment.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen – 10-foot interface for KDE plasma

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Post by IshKebab »

jorvi wrote: post #122
Oanid wrote: post #81

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I'd have to disagree with you on that one. I recently migrated to Fedora from Windows 11, which gave me the chance to try Plasma, GNOME, and a couple other desktops. Plasma is exactly what I don't want in a DE. It’s extremely configurable, but also overwhelming, and I don’t think that’s something the average user would feel comfortable navigating. I ended up choosing GNOME. It feels visually cohesive, and the design…

Not only that, because it has so many options and more of a bazaar-style development, nothing is optimized. Right now the systray has a very ugly delay when opening applets like WiFi or sound. Up to 1.5 seconds (!). This doesn't happen with the applets bare in the menu bar, so there must be some sort of negative interaction there between the systray code and applet code. This is on a bog standard KDE install too. I d…

That's definitely a bug. It's instant for me.

But I do think some of the systray things are overly complicated. E.g. why does the volume widget list all audio outputs and inputs by default?

On the other hand some things are really great. E.g. which other DE lets you adjust the screen brightness (the real one via DDC/CI) from the systray, or start video screen capture by pressing print screen?

KDE is definitely better than gnome at this point.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen – 10-foot interface for KDE plasma

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Post by Symbiote »

monegator wrote: post #111
shevy-java wrote: post #92

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If the defaults work: sure. Do they, though? I don't mind changing things on KDE, but the defaults are useless to me. Too many annoying things, all those time-wasting gimmicks, on-hover uselessness. It is clearly written for another target audience, e. g. Average Joe coming from Windows. While that is fine perhaps for those users, to me the default is useless. And I think many others feel in a similar way. To me the…

what defaults didn't work for you? i only removed the floating panels (screw those) and changed the shortcut for konsole. Done.

My guess is many KDE users have one or two adjustments they make, but we're all different.

I add a "keep window above others" button to the window title bar and set the "menu" key on my keyboard to be Compose.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen – 10-foot interface for KDE plasma

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Post by Barbing »

Timon3 wrote: post #116
djfergus wrote: post #38

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Why does it need a dialog? Just save the file AND copy it to clipboard. If user wants to annotate they can paste or go get the file.

I would be very annoyed if every screenshot I took was saved. I often take dozens of screenshots per day, and I save one maybe once a month. That means my screenshots folder only has meaningful entries. If everything was saved, I'd have to clean it up all the time. There might be a small misunderstanding regarding the "dialog". Once you've selected an area you're shown the outlines & can still modify them, and the bu…

The meaningful entries get named for later searching while the rest are kept as my computer's little photo journal or something. Comes in handy a few times a year.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen – 10-foot interface for KDE plasma

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Post by vermilingua »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #127

How you're going to be able to use Firefox or thunderbird with a tv remote ? It's great that they work on a tv ui for kde but I feel like it's really not going to work well on anything but a monitor with mouse and keyboard.

Most modern TVs (not to mention SBCs you could just connect with HDMI) have bluetooth/USB for keyboard & mouse

Re: Plasma Bigscreen – 10-foot interface for KDE plasma

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Post by aucisson_masque »

jorvi wrote: post #122
Oanid wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd have to disagree with you on that one. I recently migrated to Fedora from Windows 11, which gave me the chance to try Plasma, GNOME, and a couple other desktops. Plasma is exactly what I don't want in a DE. It’s extremely configurable, but also overwhelming, and I don’t think that’s something the average user would feel comfortable navigating. I ended up choosing GNOME. It feels visually cohesive, and the design…

Not only that, because it has so many options and more of a bazaar-style development, nothing is optimized. Right now the systray has a very ugly delay when opening applets like WiFi or sound. Up to 1.5 seconds (!). This doesn't happen with the applets bare in the menu bar, so there must be some sort of negative interaction there between the systray code and applet code. This is on a bog standard KDE install too. I d…

I can't agree more, I wish Linux had some good desktop environment.

It's fine giving lot of customization but the default got to be good, and at the opposite (gnome) it's fine to give no customization option as long as it's well thought out and makes sense.

Sadly, it's neither the case.

The best I could find was cinnamon desktop, they're not too bad.

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