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TSA leaves passenger needing surgery after illegally forcing her through scanner

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Re: TSA leaves passenger needing surgery after illegally forcing her through scanner

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post #100

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On the contrary, I think airports would desperately like to do better. Airports are hated ; improving the experience of airport security is extremely important to them.

If you pay enough, you can in fact get a much better experience (in some airports).

This is true, though how much better still has airport security as a major limiting factor.

Re: TSA leaves passenger needing surgery after illegally forcing her through scanner

#122
post #101

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You phrased it as "If you're not going to get consent to grope girls", so why is it relevant that she is female?

Mostly to make a point; more people are likely to care about it not being okay if it's phrased that way. (Something, something, toxic masculinity, "suck it up tough guy, can't handle a little pat-down?") The fact that the TSA agent a woman doesn't automatically make someone else comfortable with whatever liberties the agent feels like taking. It's still likely worse if it's a man doing it, but sharing a gender isn't…

So you think that's a toxic attitude, but cater to it anyway? It's like saying "I mention she's whites because racists might not care otherwise".

Re: TSA leaves passenger needing surgery after illegally forcing her through scanner

#123
post #100

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If you pay enough, you can in fact get a much better experience (in some airports).

This is true, though how much better still has airport security as a major limiting factor.

You can get a private screening

Re: TSA leaves passenger needing surgery after illegally forcing her through scanner

#124
post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mostly to make a point; more people are likely to care about it not being okay if it's phrased that way. (Something, something, toxic masculinity, "suck it up tough guy, can't handle a little pat-down?") The fact that the TSA agent a woman doesn't automatically make someone else comfortable with whatever liberties the agent feels like taking. It's still likely worse if it's a man doing it, but sharing a gender isn't…

So you think that's a toxic attitude, but cater to it anyway? It's like saying "I mention she's whites because racists might not care otherwise".

> It's like saying "I mention she's whites because racists might not care otherwise".

Which is a very effective technique.

Re: TSA leaves passenger needing surgery after illegally forcing her through scanner

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From the article you said you've read: > Before passing through the device, the plaintiff spoke to another officer, trying to explain the situation, but was told that the AIT machine had been “adjusted” so that it would not damage her spinal cord implant.

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Out of curiosity, are you replying with these incredibly bad takes to trip the flame war detector, or is there another reason?

Re: TSA leaves passenger needing surgery after illegally forcing her through scanner

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post #125

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Out of curiosity, are you replying with these incredibly bad takes to trip the flame war detector, or is there another reason?

We're in this really weird world where have this obviously useless to the public agency. It does in fact serve a purpose to the government. But it's useless to the public, at least in the form of officers deployed to airports.

Yet we still wind up with these stories where some TSA employee says something and for some reason people just roll with it. I am just left in awe that this is possible. Especially in the case of an individual with a medical implant. Almost certainly a medical professional told them to never do this.

Why would someone take a such an action based off a TSA employee's statement? I will not even use the word "risk" because the outcome here is known in advance. Just for perspective, I had a TSA officer proudly explain to me without any conversation (I did not want to speak to him) on my part that his qualifications for working there were "could not get into any other federal job, so they sent me here!"

Re: TSA leaves passenger needing surgery after illegally forcing her through scanner

#127
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I don't intend for this to sound like an excuse. I don't fly often, and almost never with anything expensive. But I am curious: Can objects like expensive precision optics be insured against damage from the TSA? Is that a thing that regular people can easily find coverage for?

Yes, my lens was/is insured. The problem is, it's not something you can just pick up at Best Buy, so the trip would've been a total loss (it was for business).

As a follow-up:

Yeah, Best Buy is right out. So are most local camera shops (if you can even find one where you're going), since many won't stock a $3k lens.

But there are camera shops in the world that will deliver things very fast -- for a price.

Might there be insurance available that softens that kind of blow to an adequate level? Maybe not erasing your loss, but making it able to be absorbed and still get some work done in 16-24 hours or something?

Re: TSA leaves passenger needing surgery after illegally forcing her through scanner

#128
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't intend for this to sound like an excuse. I don't fly often, and almost never with anything expensive. But I am curious: Can objects like expensive precision optics be insured against damage from the TSA? Is that a thing that regular people can easily find coverage for?

Yes, my lens was/is insured. The problem is, it's not something you can just pick up at Best Buy, so the trip would've been a total loss (it was for business).

And even if you could be made whole via insurance, the TSA agent not facing repercussions and the system not having a feedback loop to improve is the actual problem.

Re: TSA leaves passenger needing surgery after illegally forcing her through scanner

#129
post #64

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Every photographer with expensive equipment that I know has insurance for their equipment. Sometimes it is included with homeowner, sometimes a separate rider, and sometimes part of their commercial insurance. So it would be covered. However, that wouldn't help OP if they needed the lens for their trip, suddenly need to find another one, and needed to float the cash until insurance pays out.

Renting camera equipment is fairly common and their are rental services that do overnight and next day.

Yes, just not every lense in every part of the world.
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