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link to the memo?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HCmdjFGXwAAPI3d?format=jpg&name=...
thanks a lot
Where things stand with the Department of War
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#123Could they please start using the correct name? Department of Defense?
The correct name is the Department of War.
Calling it the Department of Defense implies a system of laws, checks and balances which no longer exists.
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#124It is incredible how far the overton window has moved on this issue. When I graduated in 2007, it was common for tech companies to refuse to let their systems be used for war, and it was an ordinary thing when some of my graduating classmates refused to work at companies that did let their systems be used for war. Those refusals were on moral grounds. Now Anthropic wants to have two narrow exceptions, on pragmatic an…
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my understanding that it was an Israeli missile that hit that school. i doubt we'll get to know anything about that.
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I continue to be surprised how many people haven't heard term until now, it's been in common use in the US for 20+ years. To me the most Orwellian thing is everyone using the newspeak name for the DoD.
DoW is the opposite of newspeak, it is much more transparent and honest about what that organization is and has been for my entire life
DoW is newspeak. Thats not it's name.
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Just remember, we're not at war with Iran. The House Speaker said so.
we are though, they plotted to assassinate the US president, not to mention being the #1 sponsor of terrorism in the middle east, attacking our allies
Sure they did. Thats why we only discovered it after we assassinated their current and former leaders.
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#127Long time ago I worked for a company that I learned was selling it's software to help target people during the Iraq war. I quit because I cannot support building software that kills people. This is a message to people working for that line of business at Anthropic. You don't have to do it, you can quit. If you are helping this insane administration to conduct war on Iran quit. You don't need to have that kind of bloo…
Were you earning seven figures tho? That suppresses moral stances rather quickly I reckon
There is a reason they call it 'fuck you money'
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#128It is incredible how far the overton window has moved on this issue. When I graduated in 2007, it was common for tech companies to refuse to let their systems be used for war, and it was an ordinary thing when some of my graduating classmates refused to work at companies that did let their systems be used for war. Those refusals were on moral grounds. Now Anthropic wants to have two narrow exceptions, on pragmatic an…
>refuse to let their systems be used for war.. I don't want wars. But tell me, what would you like your country to do when conflicts arise due to want of natural resources? Would you want your country to just give up that resource your people depend on, like may be 50/50? Do you believe it will always be possible to settle on a solution in a peaceful way that works for everyone?
Your logic here is sound, sure. But don't tell me you can be so naive as to believe that the U.S. military is a defensive mechanism
Re: Where things stand with the Department of War
#129It is incredible how far the overton window has moved on this issue. When I graduated in 2007, it was common for tech companies to refuse to let their systems be used for war, and it was an ordinary thing when some of my graduating classmates refused to work at companies that did let their systems be used for war. Those refusals were on moral grounds. Now Anthropic wants to have two narrow exceptions, on pragmatic an…
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waves to the censors
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#130Raised an eyebrow a little at this sentence: "Anthropic has much more in common with the Department of War than we have differences."
The Department of Defense was named as such after the detonations of the atomic bomb in Hiroshima and Nagasaki We - as a humanity - collectively recognized the weight of our creation, and decided to walk back Discussing “AI alignment” in the same breadth as aligning with a “Department of War” (in any country) is simply not an intellectually sound position None of the countries we’ve attacked this year pose an existen…
Among those who would resist, half would've done so outwardly by now and been fired, the other half would be hiding their activity. In both cases we wouldn't be hearing about them now.