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Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

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plate reading help police track down suspects without pursuit. video recording in general help police collect evidence necessary to convict reckless driving.

It sounds like you're talking about solving crimes, not preventing crimes.

solving crime and convicting criminals has first and n-order effects. For one, a few criminals commit most crimes, so locking people up reduces many crimes. Secondly, convictions are a deterrent.

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

#123
post #99

Coincidentally, a nearby county has just announced that they have begun installing new Flock cameras [0]. Their stated reason is: "Along with the cameras being used to reduce crime, the sheriff’s office said they may also be used for public safety concerns, including AMBER Alerts and Silver Alerts." The cameras are good when we're all on the happy path, but as soon as a bad actor gets involved, all of that surveillan…

> Along with the cameras being used to reduce crime, the sheriff’s office said they may also be used for public safety concerns, including AMBER Alerts and Silver Alerts. Hot take: AMBER alert is a way to keep the public paranoid about child abduction by strangers, an evil but extremely rare act, and turn their paranoia into support for law enforcement. It may not be the intended purposes, but the (real) purpose of a…

> the (real) purpose of a system is what it does

I agree with the rest of what you wrote but the quote is an overly cynical tired cliche when applied in a blanket manner. There are specific situations involving bad faith actors where it is directly relevant, and there are also times where it can be a useful observation about the impact of perverse incentives that build on top of unintended consequences.

But the way you're using it there it's no better than other politically charged nonsensical slogans.

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

#124

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I don't think this is true, I can't even find anyone else claiming this happened.

I don't remember him calling Linus a terrorist, though there were others that associated anything with a copyleft licence to be the loony left (or the commie left). He certainly referred to both him and Linux as cancers though, that I do remember. He later changed his mind on that, and IIRC may even have publicly apologised for those statements.

He said Linux is a cancer, which was a stupid thing to say, but not the same as calling Linus a cancer. I say plenty of bad things about software that I would not say about the people who create it. I think Next.js is awful to use but that doesn't mean I think everyone at Vercel is an awful person, for example.

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

#125
post #37

I volunteer for my city & county , and I'm a privacy advocate, so I have an ambivalent opinion on Flock cameras. Given the completely untenable demands on law enforcement, and extreme driver recklessness , the only practical way to enforce law and order with drivers is some sort of automated surveillance. Since covid, driver recklessness has been out of control. Running reds, extreme speed, escaping police are all co…

> At the same time, the public demands more oversight and constraints on police , which reduces their ability to enforce the law Don't make excuses for them. If you're legally allowed to kill people on purpose, you (should) get oversight and tight constraints. We don't because of a lot of reasons, but we should They get paid six figure salaries for not actually doing a whole lot, they can manage.

To what extent? Do you want infinite oversight and little-to-no crimes convicted? What are your expectations on law and order vs criminality? do you believe people naturally police themselves?

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

#128
post #93

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Police just aren't doing their job in the US, who even knows what they're doing at this point. Basically no country had the post-covid driver issue as much as America. Some states basically halved fines lol, make them do their jobs.

Seriously. People run reds in front of cops and they do nothing. I was tboned and the person that hit me had no license or anything to identify and ran a red and still was let go without anything.

What led to this?

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

#129
I'm glad the data is being catalogued and made available like this but the interactive map doesn't work for me at all. Seems to be missing clickable zoom controls and gestures on my trackpad only seem to be able to get it to zoom out, not in (I think maybe it's becoming entirely unresponsive when it first registers the zoom in event and dropping the rest of it). Did anyone actually bother to test this on a low end device?

More generally, if you're a webdev with a high end workstation it's really important to occasionally spin up a single core VM with less than 4 GB RAM, open a youtube video, and then check how well your page works in a second simultaneously visible window.

Re: An interactive map of Flock Cams

#130
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Generally, only addicts steal from poorer people. And, where I am, you're more likely to have a gun if you're poor, because there's more exposure to crime, resulting in a much more realistic understanding that the police won't save you in an emergency.

wage theft is a much larger crime

police in the US also steal more than robbers, as a factual statistic
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