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I can't guess what the USA wants other than a distraction from the raping-of- children saga, but I bet Israel would settle for "we acknowledge your right to exist and won't fund or encourage organisations that plan to harm you." If Saudi Arabia can get there…
The world has seen what Israel does when they’re attacked. They don’t get to set moral frameworks anymore.
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I can't guess what the USA wants other than a distraction from the raping-of- children saga, but I bet Israel would settle for "we acknowledge your right to exist and won't fund or encourage organisations that plan to harm you." If Saudi Arabia can get there…
Why should Israel have a right to exist? And under what parameters? Within which borders? Who gets citizenship? Surely there's no moral case to be made for Israel having a right to exist in its current religious ethnostate form? People who presumably should have citizenship due to their ties to the land area are excluded because they believe in the wrong ancient delusions.
> Why should Israel have a right to exist?
1. Israel does not have a right to exist, in fact no state has "a right to exist".
2. Israel has a right to exist because her citizens successfully defend her from those who wish her not to exist.
3. Israel has a right to exist because the UN declared it.
>>> random.randrange(1,4)
3
> And under what parameters?
From the Israeli declaration of independence:
"WE EXTEND our hand to all neighbouring states and their peoples in an offer of peace and good neighbourliness"
- https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Independence_(Israel)
"No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel."
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Arab_League_summit
> Within which borders?
> Who gets citizenship?
In other words, there is no reason to treat Israel any differently than any other state on the planet.
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Is Hezbollah hiding in the elementary school that got bombed? Perhaps that’s where the Iranian nuclear research was done? We attacked them. Full stop. And as far as I can tell we haven’t given them any conditions for when we will stop bombing them. In what moral framework do you have to just accept another sovereign, a vastly more powerful one, invading your country without fighting back?
It's not quite as clear-cut as it might first seem. The school was either within or bordering a military barracks, depending which way you wish to spin it. Al-Jazeera's article has obvious bias, but plenty of pictures and diagrams: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/3/questions-over-minab...
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Who in your opinion sets the moral framework for defending oneself against an enemy which has sworn genocide and proven capable of destroying entire peaceful villages along their borders?
There are no peaceful villages in Israel, they exist only due to recent violence.
I challenge you to research Kibbutz Beeri and find a non-peaceful description of the village.
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That's a war crime.
No, that's just war.
https://ucmj.us/is-attacking-civilians-a-war-crime/
@dang: you've banned members from this forum before for messy threads merely discussing apartheid. Surely advocating for war crimes — that the US itself considers crimes — is beyond the pale?
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There are no peaceful villages in Israel, they exist only due to recent violence.
You do not consider Kibbutz Beeri to have been a peaceful village bordering Gaza? Or you are just unfamiliar with the area? I challenge you to research Kibbutz Beeri and find a non-peaceful description of the village.
Kibbutz Beeri was created for the sole purpose of justifying a hostile land grab by a bunch of well-funded European immigrants.