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Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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For all the "My Banking Apps don't work", I'd raise one question: Do you really need access to banking apps on the go? I get that it can be handy and maybe you legit do, but I'd wager most people don't really do. If you can pay by phone you can pay by card and the card has less potentially to weirdly break. And if your bank demands a phone app to be used, you can always have a cheap stock android lying around at home…

In the UK at least, banking apps are how you give people cash when you owe them for dinner, drinks, whatever. It's also needed to authorise online payments. And for travel, location services is often used by the better banks as an alternative to immediately blocking your card every time you go anywhere. Then there are account perks[0] like airport lounges, co-working spaces, exercise classes, etc. that all use the ap…

> And for travel, location services is often used by the better banks as an alternative to immediately blocking your card every time you go anywhere.

I routinely use my (U.S.) credit card abroad and never had issues. I don't have any banking app on my phone, which runs Graphene, because I do not need access to banking on the go. Things such as airport lounges, co-working spaces, exercise classes, may be valuable, but none of these things is more important than my freedom. I do not tolerate the thought that some company may track which services I use and where I go without my consent. I therefore do not use proprietary apps on my phone. If something does not work in the browser (Vanadium), I will do without it.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never used a banking app on my phone, and I have no desire to. It's the least secure device I own (in spite of running Graphene). It's the most likely device to get lost or stolen. I currently have accounts with 3 different banks in Belgium. They all offer an app which I ignore. Online banking works just fine, heck, better than fine, it's excellent. One bank uses auth derived from my debit card (which I have to…

That's fine when you're lucky enough to be able to avoid a banking app, but for many banks its essentially compulsory. I can't login to internet banking without entering a 2FA code from the app. I'm even forced to have my Android settings a certain way, otherwise the app detects that my phone is "insecure" and refuses to run.

> for many banks its essentially compulsory.

I would look for a new bank.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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post #31

For all the "My Banking Apps don't work", I'd raise one question: Do you really need access to banking apps on the go? I get that it can be handy and maybe you legit do, but I'd wager most people don't really do. If you can pay by phone you can pay by card and the card has less potentially to weirdly break. And if your bank demands a phone app to be used, you can always have a cheap stock android lying around at home…

Sorry but thats a statement thats just willfully ignorant. Yes people need to have access to their financials when under way. That can range for PushTans, CreditCard Confirmations, to checking their budgets, moving something from one account to another, topping up your Prepaid Card. Or just being able to Pay with a Card on your Phone when you forgot your Wallet. Sure you could say I do not go out and do not need that…

How about using cash for all of this? This has the added benefit of not enabling tracking by financial institutions in addition to tracking by Google, the phone OEM, and possibly other third parties.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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PSA: For folks looking for a swipe enabled keyboard on GrapheneOS without using Google's gboard, try Heliboard - https://f-droid.org/packages/helium314.keyboard/ . It's 100% FOSS, but can also use the binary blob from google's gesture typing library "swypelibs" to provide swipe typing. Since helium can't access the internet, I am okay with that.

I think they recently finished reimplementing the swipe library so now it no longer requires blobs.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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PSA: For folks looking for a swipe enabled keyboard on GrapheneOS without using Google's gboard, try Heliboard - https://f-droid.org/packages/helium314.keyboard/ . It's 100% FOSS, but can also use the binary blob from google's gesture typing library "swypelibs" to provide swipe typing. Since helium can't access the internet, I am okay with that.

There's also FUTO Keyboard (https://keyboard.futo.org/). Nothing against Heliboard (I actually don't even remember why I chose it over Heliboard). Just another good option.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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PSA: For folks looking for a swipe enabled keyboard on GrapheneOS without using Google's gboard, try Heliboard - https://f-droid.org/packages/helium314.keyboard/ . It's 100% FOSS, but can also use the binary blob from google's gesture typing library "swypelibs" to provide swipe typing. Since helium can't access the internet, I am okay with that.

I think they recently finished reimplementing the swipe library so now it no longer requires blobs.

Sounds more like "recently started", https://github.com/Helium314/HeliBoard/issues/2226

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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post #125

PSA: For folks looking for a swipe enabled keyboard on GrapheneOS without using Google's gboard, try Heliboard - https://f-droid.org/packages/helium314.keyboard/ . It's 100% FOSS, but can also use the binary blob from google's gesture typing library "swypelibs" to provide swipe typing. Since helium can't access the internet, I am okay with that.

There's also FUTO Keyboard ( https://keyboard.futo.org/ ). Nothing against Heliboard (I actually don't even remember why I chose it over Heliboard). Just another good option.

FUTO, unlike everything else discussed here, is not FOSS.

https://gitlab.futo.org/keyboard/latinime/-/blob/master/LICE...

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's also FUTO Keyboard ( https://keyboard.futo.org/ ). Nothing against Heliboard (I actually don't even remember why I chose it over Heliboard). Just another good option.

FUTO, unlike everything else discussed here, is not FOSS. https://gitlab.futo.org/keyboard/latinime/-/blob/master/LICE...

>You may distribute the software or any part of its source code only if you do so free of charge for non-commercial purposes.

Semantic arguments over what "FOSS" means aside, for most people, calling it "not FOSS" probably makes them more confused than if you just said "it's FOSS", even if the latter might not be technically correct.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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I think it's healthy for a population to not have as part of day-to-day life to pay with credit, effectively paying with money you might not actually have, going into debt. How many US citizens are crippled by credit card debt, and the interest on it?

You can pay with credit card as a convenience + fraud protection mechanism without ever paying interest by just paying your bill off every month. When chip and pin was first rolled out, Europeans were shocked by the low security of swipe cards in the US. The reason that wasn’t an issue for Americans was (and still is) that credit cards have excellent fraud protections. If someone steals my credit card, it is the bank…

> + fraud protection mechanism

This is an Americanism, my European debit card had consumer protection clauses pretty much on par with credit cards.

Re: Daily Driving GrapheneOS

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>Google Messages - for most of the last 8 months RCS was broken on GrapheneOS, but it's back now and Google messages is still the only option for messaging with family members on iOS.

I'm glad to hear that's finally fixed. That was my only pain point with GrapheneOS, but it got so bad I bought an iPhone when the 17's came out.

If the deal with Motorola helps GrapheneOS get better integration with the carriers, get a heads up about RCS changes ahead of time, get help fixing it, I'd happily switch back. I loved using GrapheneOS and iOS frustrates me daily.

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