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Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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Post by kelvinjps10 »

stockresearcher wrote: post #73
mrbuttons454 wrote: post #59

I have been a Mac user since the classic mac days. I waited in line for the first iPhone. macOS/iOS 26 are bad enough that I've begun switching to Linux. I preordered a Clicks Communicator and Pebble Round 2. Switching from a Macbook Pro M4 to an Asus ROG Flow Z13 with Debian. macOS 26.3 updated clang and broke my emscripten workflow. I tried to unrar a file but the version of unrar provided in homebrew is deprecated…

From an outsider just going by what you wrote: you are trading a $2000+ year-old computer for a new $2000+ computer because you are annoyed about some temporary problems (yes, they are temporary). Apple marketers are just going to think that in another year you’re going to get annoyed by some Linux thing (yes, there will be something annoying) and buy a brand new $2000+ Mac. These kind of posts get a lot of upvotes,…

If multiple people stopped buying Macs and complained and that got apple to solve the temporary problems, isn't that hat what people intended to accomplish?

Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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Post by WorldPeas »

pembrook wrote: post #55
freetonik wrote: post #49

Coincidentally, I had to leave macOS for a Windows 11 pc about a month ago and it’s… fine. There are absurd bugs and ux decisions, but I honestly think there are different but equally bad aspects of macOS. On the other hand, some of the things in windows land are just nicer. For one, my network samba shares stay connected and mounted through restarts. I could never make this work reliably on macOS. File explorer is g…

> [on windows 11] my network samba shares stay connected and mounted through restarts. I could never make this work reliably on macOS. It’s wild to me that Apple has allowed SMB on MacOS to be so broken/slow and poorly implemented for so long. It’s been this way for over a DECADE. I have friends who work at production studios who complain about network storage and MacOS all the time given any modern video workflow in…

it's wild to me that Apple has retained SMB as the default option on macos for over a decade. There are plenty of faster/more secure protocols that are still widely recognized, yet they're still encouraging use of a protocol that could expose user data without so much as an Apple-y bother dialog about the consequences

Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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Post by aloha2436 »

rafaelmn wrote: post #65
nsbk wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m right where you are. Very happy Apple customer since my first PowerBook G4. Currently have an M1 Max, an iPhone 17 Pro, the iPad Pro, HomePod, Apple TV, and Watch Ultra. All the _just works_ feeling and reliability seem to be gone. Tahoe is so unstable that I now restart the Mac every day, when in the past it happened on software updates only. Apple Music is another huge mess, I can’t comprehend how can it be so…

I'm sorry but if your out is linux and windows because you're not happy how stuff doesn't "just work" in the Apple ecosystem boy are you in for a bad surprise. However bad you think Apple is getting with MacOS - windows is getting worse. And Linux ? Good luck getting decent hardware that will run without having basic functionality issues. Queue the linux brigade "my PC works perfect, what linux issues are you having"…

> I'm sorry but if your out is linux and windows because you're not happy how stuff doesn't "just work" in the Apple ecosystem boy are you in for a bad surprise.

I think you and GP agree more than you realise, their point seems to be that Apple was worth all the locked down walled garden stuff because at least it "just worked." Now it's a locked down walled garden which _also doesn't work._ Tahoe and iOS 26 are the worst of both worlds.

Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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Post by whyenot »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #5

I've been running Tahoe since 26.2, after cowardly skipping 0 and 1. And... it's fine? Am I only using the happy path? Or are people just particularly confident about complaining about Tahoe after seeing everyone else do it. For sure it has glitches, but as far as I can tell, they're the same glitches that were in Sequoia. (If anyone at Apple is reading this, can you take a glance at your NFS client code? It does lik…

This has also been my experience. I don't really have any problems with it. It works fine, it doesn't have the weird telemetry and monetization issues that Windows has.

Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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Post by ryandrake »

benoau wrote: post #68

> Even ignoring bugs and design changes, in which way does it serve users to phase out Rosetta 2, which in a container-heavy world is more or less required for developers due to the ecosystem of ARM64 Linux containers being nowhere near as widespread as for AMD x86-64 ones, and which keeps many applications runnable that otherwise wouldn't be? This is what tells me I'm completely misaligned with Apple's vision of the…

"Preventing users from running the software they want to run" seems like such an anti-feature, yet every major system seems to be moving quickly in this direction. I feel like general purpose computing is going to be on life support, soon.

Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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Post by MoonWalk »

codebje wrote: post #79
MoonWalk wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are lots of other regressive, mind-bogglingly inept changes scattered across the included applications. One of my favorites is in Apple Music, where the transport controls and song-title display has been moved from the top of the window down into the content-browser or song-list area... where it's "transparent" and overlaid on other text or album art. In Mail, the "get new mail" button has been REMOVED from the…

In Mail, right click on the toolbar and choose customise. Put the "get mail" action where you want it.

Thanks. I noted in my comment the option to re-add it to the toolbar, but everyday users can't be expected to know this is possible or how to do it.

Nor should they have to, given that mail retrieval is something that everyone can logically be expected to do if they're told they were just sent a message.

Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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Post by marcus_holmes »

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #106
sivers wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the difference is trajectory and trust. We all predict the future, consciously or not. We invest our time and effort into a system that we think has a good future. Tahoe made me lose trust in Apple's software, and see its trajectory as a bad one that I didn't want to invest any more time into.

While I understand that, I can't help but compare this to Mac hardware rather than software. There was a years-long stretch when it seemed like they'd really seriously lost the plot: the butterfly keyboard, the Touch Bar, the "trashcan" Mac, heat issues across the line. There was a real case to be made for abandoning Macs based on hardware issues alone (and I'm sure some folks did, and hopefully they're happy for it)…

It's a good point. I hated that butterfly keyboard, and the Touch Bar was an utterly useless gimmick for me. And they realised that and rolled it back (and added ports again!).

They do eventually listen to their customers. Let's hope it doesn't take as long for these changes to get rolled back.

I'm kinda stuck with Mac at work. I don't mind it, but I run Linux on all my personal computers and find that is way better.

Re: Welcome (back) to Macintosh

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Post by badsectoracula »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #66
mrbuttons454 wrote: post #59

I have been a Mac user since the classic mac days. I waited in line for the first iPhone. macOS/iOS 26 are bad enough that I've begun switching to Linux. I preordered a Clicks Communicator and Pebble Round 2. Switching from a Macbook Pro M4 to an Asus ROG Flow Z13 with Debian. macOS 26.3 updated clang and broke my emscripten workflow. I tried to unrar a file but the version of unrar provided in homebrew is deprecated…

Gonna say that the switch from X11 to Wayland that was pretty much forced this year across many distributions, broke a ton of things too (screenshot programs, keyboard shortcuts), however, all the code is open source, and there are workarounds and source code available but it still sucks. Basic keyboard shortcuts are still broke with the Wayland migration. e.g. Copyq has this janky workaround for a shortcut to regist…

FWIW exactly because it is open source, there isn't anyone actually forcing you to use Wayland (distros changed a default, they didn't remove the ability to install something else - even Fedora that got rid of X11 support for GNOME in their distro still provides other DEs and WMs). As long as there are people who want to keep using X11, there will be an option (be it Xorg or some fork).
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