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If you're unhappy with this, an immediate way to signal it is with your wallet. In my case I've just uninstalled chatgpt from my phone, cancelled my subscription and will up my spend with anthropic.

Just canceled my subscription! I immediately received an email with the subject “We’d love your feedback on why you canceled your ChatGPT plus subscription” and a link to a survey.

I linked to https://notdivided.org/ as the reasoning why.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sam is a player and honestly the more interesting one in the whole thing. Mad respect to Sam, now I believe OpenAI have better chance to win in the race

Hitler won the race in the 1930s too. Totally crushed it.

I considered that comparison, but in all seriousness, I’m not sure it’s apt.

Are he and his peers Hitler or they the naive oligarchs who think they can keep populist leaders and their constituencies under their thumb? Only to be out maneuvered by the people who the masses think have their back.

I know many folks who think their political leaders have the best interest at heart (rightly or wrongly). I know nobody who thinks tech leaders do. At best they want to be them.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

#124
post #36

Sam is just about the least trustworthy person in AI, I don't trust his words as face value and I consider these weasel words: > prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility *for the use of force*

That means autonomous killbots are a-ok. Human responsibility is not the same as human decision-making.

The president or anybody at DoD can be "responsible", and we know there will be zero accountability. The courts defer to the executive, and Congress is all-too-happy for the executive to take the flak for their wars.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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post #16

I don't see how OpenAI employees who have signed the We Will Not Be Divided letter can continue their employment there in light of this. Surely if OpenAI had insisted upon the same things that Anthropic had, the government would not have signed this agreement. The only plausible explanation is that there is an understanding that OpenAI will not, in practice, enforce the red lines.

>Surely if OpenAI had insisted upon the same things that Anthropic had, the government would not have signed this agreement. Have we been watching the same Trump admin for the last year? That sound exactly like something the government would do: pointlessly throw a fit and end up signing a worse deal after blowing up all political capital.

They seem moderately competent at doing blatant corruption ( https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/official-trump/ , Qatari jet, etc...). See jeffbee's comment below.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

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post #40

We need some kind of group like "tech people with morals". I'm done with these people and their corruption and garbage.

Yeah some new banner to organise around- the hard part is easily communicating you're an ethical technologist and finding others.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

#128

Sam must not be aware of what happened to any business or foreign nation/leader considered outwardly friendly to the first Trump administration when the democrats regained control in 2020.

You’re assuming democrats will ever be allowed to regain control.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

#129
post #43

If you're unhappy with this, an immediate way to signal it is with your wallet. In my case I've just uninstalled chatgpt from my phone, cancelled my subscription and will up my spend with anthropic.

I’d like to say I did that but I already canceled my subscription 4 months ago in favor of Claude and Gemini based purely on product quality.

Was shocking back then to think how far we’ve come.

Re: OpenAI agrees with Dept. of War to deploy models in their classified network

#130

More details on the difference between the OpenAI and Anthropic contracts from one of the Under Secretaries of State: >The axios article doesn’t have much detail and this is DoW’s decision, not mine. But if the contract defines the guardrails with reference to legal constraints (e.g. mass surveillance in contravention of specific authorities) rather than based on the purely subjective conditions included in Anthropic…

You're quoting social media posts from a regime official who says he didn't participate in these negotiations and doesn't work for the relevant department.

If his characterization of the agreement is correct, which I will not believe and you should not believe until a trustworthy news outlet publishes the text, I suppose this would convince me that Hegseth does not literally plan to build a Terminator for democracy-ending purposes. There's a lot of inexcusable stuff here regardless, but perhaps merely boycotting OpenAI and the US military would be a sufficient response if this all checks out.

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