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Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by dangus »

ragall wrote: post #109
dangus wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This specific list from this specific author isn’t worth using since they refuse to remove items from the list if domain ownership changes. E.g., bought a domain that previously hosted AI content. E.g., Whitehouse.com used to be a porn site, now it’s not.

> E.g., bought a domain that previously hosted AI content. Before buying a domain you should check if it's present in blacklists. > Whitehouse.com used to be a porn site, now it’s not. I won't lose sleep over that.

Well, I understand you won’t lose any sleep, but this is conceptually stupid.

That would be like refusing to allow someone to buy a house because the last owner was a convicted of a crime. Sorry, we gotta demolish the house now! And nobody can live on the plot.

The owner of this repo is free to do whatever they want but I’m free to point out that it’s a dumb practice.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by nottorp »

dotancohen wrote: post #114
giancarlostoro wrote: post #113

I'm the weirdo who just closes websites with too many ads, and just mostly powers through the ads. If you have a sane setup for ads I will use your website. I'm tired of the years of adblock drama. Every time I come to these threads its completely different names for adblock plugins, it's like a rat race.

The problem is that ads have often been vectors for malware.

Not all, but blocking ads makes sites load 10x faster.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by jorvi »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #91
jorvi wrote: post #59

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Go to the Adguard GitHub (or use the extension) and report it. And get all your friends to switch to Adguard extension and Adguard Home (Pi Hole alternative) as blockers. Easylist and its sublist are notorious for being poorly maintained and ignoring issues opened against it. Adguard is much more active in maintaining its lists. Especially Adguard its language blocklists have much, much less breakage and missed ads t…

>> And get all your friends to switch to Adguard extension and Adguard Home (Pi Hole alternative) as blockers. Nice of you to slip this "easy" step into your advice. Give me a break!

..?

If you know how to run a Pi Hole, you know how to run Adguard Home. And installing Chromium / Firefox / Safari extensions isn't exactly rocket science.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by zadikian »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #113

I'm the weirdo who just closes websites with too many ads, and just mostly powers through the ads. If you have a sane setup for ads I will use your website. I'm tired of the years of adblock drama. Every time I come to these threads its completely different names for adblock plugins, it's like a rat race.

I get this. uBO on Firefox has "just worked" for me for a long time with 0 configuration (I don't mess with the blacklists), but on phones it's a different game, and on Chrome, and before uBO there was other drama.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by zadikian »

TonyTrapp wrote: post #41
quiet35 wrote: post #38

I like the idea and even considered contributing to the list, but this stopped me: > NAQ (Never Asked Questions) > My website is on your list! > Cry about it. That's quite a suspicious attitude. Clearly the maintainer believes he is infallible. I understand the emotions behind this, but this is not how a public blacklist should be maintained.

Yuuup. My personal website has been inaccessible to a few friends, they thought my server was down. It turned out they had some blocklist (not related to AI) installed on their PiHole, and for whatever reason my website was on that list. It is, in fact, to this day, because my request to unblock it went completely unanswered. I still don't know why the website is on the list.

PiHole should err on the side of false negatives, uBO on false positives. Difference being uBO only takes a click to disarm for a site.

Personally I don't want to introduce any chance of my DNS being a problem.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by filldorns »

mjmas wrote: post #117
filldorns wrote: post #104

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I'm not saying that those who use these terms are racist. I'm saying that language evolves. If there are equivalent technical alternatives that don't carry a history of oppression, why not use them? It costs nothing and can make the environment more inclusive. This doesn't replace concrete actions, but it also doesn't prevent them from happening. If changing a word is "purely performative," then keeping it is also pu…

> It costs nothing It cost time and coding work to make the change.

Whatever the cost! You spend money on trivial things, why not on important things?

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by filldorns »

ragall wrote: post #110
filldorns wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not saying that those who use these terms are racist. I'm saying that language evolves. If there are equivalent technical alternatives that don't carry a history of oppression, why not use them? It costs nothing and can make the environment more inclusive. This doesn't replace concrete actions, but it also doesn't prevent them from happening. If changing a word is "purely performative," then keeping it is also pu…

> I'm saying that language evolves. That means I won't bother fighting changes that became established before I was born. I most definitely doesn't mean I have to go along with every change I see proposed now. > If there are equivalent technical alternatives that don't carry a history of oppression Words are not oppression.

No one chose to be born in a certain context. But everyone participates in the context that they continue to feed or transform.

Do you recognize that you live in a system that produces racial inequality today?

If the answer is yes, then there is some level of participation, albeit minimal. Because living in a structure is already being inside it.

If you are white, your ancestors did this. They created separation and made simple words dehumanize people. So yes, you and everyone else has a chance to make amends. The choice is yours.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by ragall »

filldorns wrote: post #128
ragall wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm saying that language evolves. That means I won't bother fighting changes that became established before I was born. I most definitely doesn't mean I have to go along with every change I see proposed now. > If there are equivalent technical alternatives that don't carry a history of oppression Words are not oppression.

No one chose to be born in a certain context. But everyone participates in the context that they continue to feed or transform. Do you recognize that you live in a system that produces racial inequality today? If the answer is yes, then there is some level of participation, albeit minimal. Because living in a structure is already being inside it. If you are white, your ancestors did this. They created separation and…

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Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by ragall »

dangus wrote: post #121
ragall wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> E.g., bought a domain that previously hosted AI content. Before buying a domain you should check if it's present in blacklists. > Whitehouse.com used to be a porn site, now it’s not. I won't lose sleep over that.

Well, I understand you won’t lose any sleep, but this is conceptually stupid. That would be like refusing to allow someone to buy a house because the last owner was a convicted of a crime. Sorry, we gotta demolish the house now! And nobody can live on the plot. The owner of this repo is free to do whatever they want but I’m free to point out that it’s a dumb practice.

> That would be like refusing to allow someone to ...

You should stop thinking by analogies. You're doing a disservice to yourself and your thinking capacity.

> The owner of this repo is free to do whatever they want but I’m free to point out that it’s a dumb practice.

I find it very useful, just like most of its users, and if ever I were to find it necessary to use a website that's obviously blocked, I know how to unblock it. Most of the time I don't bother, so that's something for you to think.

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