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US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by dboreham »

recursive wrote: post #59
reactordev wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It goes deeper than that. The U.S. Government funds it, discourages other nations from using it, and spies on all web traffic as a result of it. Almost 80% of communications go through a data center in Northern VA. Within a quick drive to Langley, Quantico, DC, and other places that house three letter agencies I’m not authorized to disclose.

Speed of light establishes certain latency minima. Experimental data can falsify (or not) at geographical locations far enough from VA.

"Going through" doesn't necessarily imply store and forward. It could be tapped elsewhere and shipped to WVA. fwiw the idea of running a network in order to tap it is hardly new. The British operated largest telegraph network in the world in the 1800's for that reason.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by ohyoutravel »

nickorlow wrote: post #119
jadenPete wrote: post #107

Then won’t foreign governments just ban freedom.gov? This problem has already been solved with networks like Tor and I2P. It seems like it would be more strategic to fund those projects instead.

US can probably use their soft power to influence them not to do that. Also would imagine the US gov could also set up some more censorship resistant access methods.

Well, maybe USAID could have helped here. Or a robust State Dept.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by shimman »

Den_VR wrote: post #115
reactordev wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It goes deeper than that. The U.S. Government funds it, discourages other nations from using it, and spies on all web traffic as a result of it. Almost 80% of communications go through a data center in Northern VA. Within a quick drive to Langley, Quantico, DC, and other places that house three letter agencies I’m not authorized to disclose.

So they… drive the data around NOVA?

No, but if you want to collaborate with the federal government it makes it more convenient to be located where the federal government resides.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by NewJazz »

mlh496 wrote: post #64

Sad that western Europe is pushing so hard for limits to free speech & privacy. I'm not surprised given their history, but it's sad nonetheless.

It's so sad US elites are so desperate for mindshare that they have to resort to dumping (mis)information on everyone else, everywhere.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by NewJazz »

MiiMe19 wrote: post #114
carlm42 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sad that the United States are pushing so hard to encourage the propagation of propaganda & lies. I'm not surprised given their history, but it's sad nonetheless.

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Elon let a bunch of people generate lewd photographs depicting minors, then published it.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by Aurornis »

dboreham wrote: post #121
recursive wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speed of light establishes certain latency minima. Experimental data can falsify (or not) at geographical locations far enough from VA.

"Going through" doesn't necessarily imply store and forward. It could be tapped elsewhere and shipped to WVA. fwiw the idea of running a network in order to tap it is hardly new. The British operated largest telegraph network in the world in the 1800's for that reason.

You think there's an entire shadow infrastructure across the United States or world that carries 80% of all internet traffic all the way to VA?

It would have to be several times larger than the internet infrastructure itself due to the distances involved.

All built and maintained in secret?

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Post by andrewflnr »

nomilk wrote: post #89

Can someone ELI5 how it actually works? Say I'm a UK citizen with advanced glioblastoma (implying loss of faculties, seizures, and pain; no cure, and things to worsen before eventually passing away, possibly some time from now). Suppose I wish to view websites on euthanasia options, but am blocked from doing so by the UK's Online Safety Act. How does/will Freedom.gov help? (is it essentially a free VPN?) Also, as oth…

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Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by PolygonSheep »

sublimefire wrote: post #111
mlh496 wrote: post #64

Sad that western Europe is pushing so hard for limits to free speech & privacy. I'm not surprised given their history, but it's sad nonetheless.

What limits? You can do pretty much what you want but make sure you can defend yourself in the court. I feel there is a bit of a disconnect in terms where people get the news where in US you kind of expect biggest news providers to be biassed, eg Fox, hence reliance on social media. In Europe gov media is quite strong and objective, and the idea that it restricts something is odd. A great example is the banning of RT…

I have heard of RT lying but I have never actually seen examples of specific lies. Is there any list out there where they list any specific ones? If they do it a lot, it should be quite easy, no?

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by bdangubic »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #101
perching_aix wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, I guess the people there just magically all woke up one day hating the jews and voting in Hitler. Crazy how that happens. Why do political factions even spend money on campaigning? Those silly geese.

Wait, your operating theory on why the NSDAP became popular is because they... tricked everyone into hating jews? You are not only entirely misunderstanding why the NSDAP appealed to people, you're also completely misunderstanding what post WWI Germany was - a republic hastily brought about with little care so that Woodrow Wilson would offer Germany peace based on his 14 points (he didn't). It was doomed to fail from…

people are sheep mate... in 2026 with the social media at politicians disposal you can convince most people of just about anything you want. current politics in the US is basically cultism. if trump says that Russians are now great guys, 99% of people who grew up during the cold war that are "maga" now are going "oh, what a turnaround, love them Russians now."

same goes the other way, Germany can return to 1930s in the time one political campaign starts and ends given the state of society at the moment.

I am not advocating for limits on free speech, I am a free speech absolutist. and with that come the consequences we see not just in the united states but around the world. but to think that allowing anyone to say anything cannot lead to absolute catastrophies/hatred/... in the year of our lord 2026 is very misguided...

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by copperx »

nickorlow wrote: post #119
jadenPete wrote: post #107

Then won’t foreign governments just ban freedom.gov? This problem has already been solved with networks like Tor and I2P. It seems like it would be more strategic to fund those projects instead.

US can probably use their soft power to influence them not to do that. Also would imagine the US gov could also set up some more censorship resistant access methods.

Which soft power are you talking about?
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