I am not surprised they do that. Traditionally, there doesn't seem to be that much money in interactive theorem proving.
Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it
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Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why are you using experience and authoritative framing about a technology we’ve been using for less than 6 months?
6 months? I've been using LLMs to augment development since early December 2023. I've expanded the scope and complexity of the changes made since then as the models grew. Before beads existed, I used a folder of markdown files for externalized memory. Just because you were late to the party doesn't mean all of us were.
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Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think programming effectiveness is inherently tied to the useful life of software, and we will need to see that play out. This is not to suggest that AI tools do not have value but that “I just have agents writing code and it works great!” Has yet to hit its test.
The views I see often shared here are typical of those in the trenches of the tech industry: conservative. I get it; I do. It's rapidly challenging the paradigm that we've setup over the years in a way that it's incredibly jarring, but this is going to be our new reality or you're going to be left behind in MOST industries; highly regulated industries are a different beast. So; instead of just out-of-hand dismissing…
I don’t doubt that companies are willing to try low quality things. They play with these processes all the time. Maybe the whole industry will try it.
I’m available for consulting when you need something done correctly.
Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it
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Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it
#125They are doing this so they can eventually remove the feature entirely in the future.
Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why are you using experience and authoritative framing about a technology we’ve been using for less than 6 months?
6 months? I've been using LLMs to augment development since early December 2023. I've expanded the scope and complexity of the changes made since then as the models grew. Before beads existed, I used a folder of markdown files for externalized memory. Just because you were late to the party doesn't mean all of us were.
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Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it
#127I've noticed more and more of the llm providers are trying to hide as much as possible of their thinking and inner working.
Anthropic doesn't want you to be easily able to jump off claude code into open code + open weight llm.
Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it
#128It's all well and good for Anthropic developers who have 10x the model speed us regular users have and so their TUI is streaming quickly. But over here, it takes 20 minutes for Claude to do a basic task.
It feels like they're optimizing the UI for demo reels rather than real-world work. A clean screen is cool when everything is flying, but when things start lagging, I need verbose mode to see exactly where we're stuck and if I should even bother waiting
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> it's about catching when it goes off the rails before it makes a mess The latest "meta" in AI programming appears to be agent teams (or swarms or clusters or whatever) that are designed to run for long periods of time autonomously. Through that lens, these changes make more sense. They're not designing UX for a human sitting there watching the agent work. They're designing for horizontally scaling agents that work…
>Through that lens, these changes make more sense. They're not designing UX for a human sitting there watching the agent work. They're designing for horizontally scaling agents that work in uninterrupted stretches where the only thing that matters is the final output, not the steps it took to get there.
Even in that case they should still be logging what they're doing for later investigation/auditing if something goes wrong. Regardless of whether a human or an AI ends up doing the auditing.
Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it
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I maintain serious code bases and I use LLM agents (and agent teams) plenty -- I just happen to review the code they write, I demand they write the code in a reviewable way, and use them mostly for menial tasks that are otherwise unpleasant timesinks I have to do myself. There are many people like me, that just quietly use these tools to automate the boring chores of dealing with mature production code bases. We are…
It's not called vibe coding then.
Oh you made vibe coding work? Well then it's not vibe coding.
But any time someone mentions using AI without proof of success? Vibe coding sucks.