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Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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Re: Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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Post by etruong42 »

iancmceachern wrote: post #92

It's so weird to me that these folks don't just retire with a bag of money to a nice beach house and enjoy life. They're always seeming to meddle. And in doing so they take away our, and their peace. It's like they're troubled deeply and they need us to be also? Why can't they just not do demonstrably evil, deeply wrong things?

I also suspect there is a vortex of temptation as you become an increasingly interesting person. Rich, famous, powerful, well-connected, beautiful etc are all interesting characteristics to nefarious people since those characteristics can advance their own nefarious interests. I suspect that, as you become an increasingly interesting person, you must actively defend your peace. It's not like they actively undermine their own peace, at least not always.

This vortex of temptation appears to have many points of origin, such as cults like Scientology, or particular persons such as the casually described "gold diggers", or... whatever organization Epstein is a part of, etc.

Re: Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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Post by pixelatedindex »

ratrace wrote: post #77
mindslight wrote: post #29

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And when your favored divine-right monarchy comes for their "divine right" with your underage daughters and sons? Will you still be willing to give all for the cause?

I'm going to draft a new theory of sociopolitics called Pedophile-Oriented Ontology. It's when someone's political critique becomes entirely oriented around accusations of pedophilia or lack thereof. Monarchy? Le bad, because the king could be a pedo!

You didn’t answer the question. Is it because: 1. You think the question isn’t applicable 2. You think doesn’t happen 3. You think justice is served for pedophiles 4. The president didn’t do anything wrong and so none of these discussions are valid

Re: Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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Post by pixelatedindex »

ratrace wrote: post #104
mindslight wrote: post #101

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You're saying that monarchies never had perverted debauchery? It sounds like you need to read a little more broadly, rather than just contemporary writings that seek to burn down all of Chesterton's fences. And keep in mind that the monarchies of old were still constrained by religion, and by the lack of digital communications! What is being pushed today is better characterized as autocracy . The "monarchy" label is…

> Also I think you meant "capitalists" rather than "anti-capitalists". No, I'm very much talking about talibanized socialists/communists/whatever they want to particularly call themselves. "Eat the rich" has become "The rich eat babies" because it doesn't matter what you try and get people to believe as long as they align themselves with your side and against the people you don't like. The Big Lie of our times, perha…

> No, I'm very much talking about talibanized socialists/communists/whatever they want to particularly call themselves.

Ad hominem attacks for me but not for thee?

Re: Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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Post by mindslight »

ratrace wrote: post #116
mindslight wrote: post #111

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Oh no, flyers? That changes things. Flyers are the worst. How do you even manage?

I get by by resenting democracy and the political process. It ain't much but it's honest work.

I understand. In fact, I've been there - I was working on ecash and cryptography before bitcoin and the bastardization of the term crypto. "Code is law" and all that.

I'm sure some of it is due to getting older, but with open cult-of-personality autocratic authoritarianism (aka fascism) upon us I have become quite conservative. I had been taking a lot for granted about the freedoms we do have, and the position of the Western world. Don't let a desire to make things better goad you into wanting to destroy what we do have.

But regardless, if you recoil from the groupthink of the leftists you should be similarly allergic to the groupthink of the rightists. They have taken up the mantles of so many of our longstanding societal problems, only to be led by outright con men and liars who are doing nothing to actually address those problems. And I don't just mean hate-but-hold-your-nose-for-some-greater-good, but rather hold them in the same exact regard as the leftists. Especially as that red tribe groupthink is now in power, and its results are not pretty.

Re: Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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Post by duxup »

iancmceachern wrote: post #92

It's so weird to me that these folks don't just retire with a bag of money to a nice beach house and enjoy life. They're always seeming to meddle. And in doing so they take away our, and their peace. It's like they're troubled deeply and they need us to be also? Why can't they just not do demonstrably evil, deeply wrong things?

People probably do that, but they do it as multi millionaires more often than not.

Re: Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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ratrace wrote: post #126
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Re: Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019

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belter wrote: post #122
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