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Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by czhu12 »

Google should build slack. Its a travesty how incredibly good their google workspace suite of tools is, and then google chat is what sits between it all. If it wasn't for the fact that google bungled an internal communication tool so badly, slack wouldn't even have to exist.

For the life of me I cannot understand why they after a decade, has let slack and teams become basically a duopoly in this space.

Source: I use google chat everyday, so its not just a "UI looks ugly thing". Literally nothing you think should work works. Ex: inviting outside collaborators to a shared channel, converting a private DM group into a channel, having public channels for community & private channels for internal work. Goes on and on.

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by dr_kiszonka »

Hamuko wrote: post #26
spprashant wrote: post #11

My personal experience with using Slack as just a in-company chat app has been fine. I enjoy using Slack more than Teams or Discord. All their integrations kinda suck though, and its not uncommon for integrations to randomly break with no discernible changes elsewhere.

I hate how Slack has no syntax highlighting for code blocks. Even Discord has it.

On the desktop, you can share snippets, but this is not inline.

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

#124

Post by bydlocoder »

datsci_est_2015 wrote: post #55
CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #20

I use Slack every day, and I love it. Integrations are simple and reliable, giving us useful information about critical things. Why it uses 400mb I have no idea.

> Why it uses 400mb I have no idea. Yes, this is an important detail as well. Make a Slack clone, but have it perform way better than the original (less RAM, CPU usage), with a smaller storage footprint. Also deliver on features faster than the original. And have those features be more tailored to what the users both want and need - and things they didn’t even know they needed as well. This is, after all, what’s bein…

Is Slack CPU and memory usage actually a problem? Sure, developers complain about it but they almost always have powerful PCs

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

#125

Post by yellow_lead »

There's already Zulip, Mattermost, and many others. Building a chat application should be considered a tar pit problem IMO. A lot of success relies on network effects and familiarity, and the product looks deceptively simple.

It's unlikely you can build one that is better than Slack without years of investment. Even if you do, it's still an uphill battle.

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by uptownfunk »

czhu12 wrote: post #121

Google should build slack. Its a travesty how incredibly good their google workspace suite of tools is, and then google chat is what sits between it all. If it wasn't for the fact that google bungled an internal communication tool so badly, slack wouldn't even have to exist. For the life of me I cannot understand why they after a decade, has let slack and teams become basically a duopoly in this space. Source: I use…

Totally it is the biggest missing piece of their ecosystem and would complete their offering so nicely. Get a pm and 3 engineers and vibe it out

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by molsongolden »

yellow_lead wrote: post #125

There's already Zulip, Mattermost, and many others. Building a chat application should be considered a tar pit problem IMO. A lot of success relies on network effects and familiarity, and the product looks deceptively simple. It's unlikely you can build one that is better than Slack without years of investment. Even if you do, it's still an uphill battle.

Zulip is awesome \m/

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

#129

Post by mjcl »

lovich wrote: post #108
miki123211 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teams is definitely a solid success. It is by no means a good app. Those two things aren't the same. Slack started with an aggressive "bottom up" approach, they made something actually good and got to worrying about the sales part later. You don't need sales as much when companies come to you, begging you for an actual contract that fulfills their enterprise requirements, knowing that rooting you out is almost imposs…

I thought Slack started as a failed game and they only pivoted when their in game chat proved popular. They still have game assets around like their 404 page iirc.

Not quite, they built Slack as an internal communication tool while building the game Glitch (RIP) and after the game failed they decided to productize Slack.

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by notpushkin »

ffsm8 wrote: post #118
hadlock wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slack would be a lot better if they supported clients via rest api or similar. I want to run it in a terminal window alongside IRC etc. I have no desire to put up with their ridiculous UI/UX decisions

You can't really do chat via rest, you need some kind of socket/sse for chat, otherwise all clients need to poll every second

It’s a good thing that Slack uses WebSockets! I think they even had the API for custom clients available, it’s only for Slack Apps now: https://docs.slack.dev/apis/events-api/using-socket-mode/

(And of course, way back then there was an official IRC interface, too)

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