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How did Windows 95 get permission to put Weezer video 'Buddy Holly' on the CD?

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Re: How did Windows 95 get permission to put Weezer video 'Buddy Holly' on the CD?

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Post by snthpy »

WorkerBee28474 wrote: post #108
taysco wrote: post #85

Microsoft went crazy with Windows 95 marketing and release. They also spent 3m (reported between 8m-15m at the time though -- which was massive for its day) on licensing Stones' Start Me Up.And they actually sent some shitty live version which would have avoided paying their old bassist. Jerks. The hype was real though. I can still remember installing the floppy version on one of my first PCs. The first start up was…

> they actually sent some shitty live version which would have avoided paying their old bassist. Their old bassist did not make for good PR... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandy_Smith

> The story took another surprising turn in 1993, when Wyman's 30-year-old son from his first marriage, Stephen, married Smith's mother, Patsy, then aged 46, making Smith her own step-grandfather’s ex-wife.

Re: How did Windows 95 get permission to put Weezer video 'Buddy Holly' on the CD?

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Post by hulitu »

ellisd wrote: post #60
whizzter wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it auto-played when you didn't want to. If you had Spotify running and then pressed the quick-play on your phones it would continue where it was, but after a reboot the iPhone would auto-play from Apple Music instead if Spotify hadn't been started. So tapping play on your headphones would start those damn U2 songs "by accident" because it's the only thing that was on the Apple Music accounts we aren't using..…

THIS WAS THE ISSUE 100% - every single time I rode in a car with an iPhone connected to the ICE, that damn U2 album would autoplay.

UX at its finest.

Re: How did Windows 95 get permission to put Weezer video 'Buddy Holly' on the CD?

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Post by tosti »

taysco wrote: post #85

Microsoft went crazy with Windows 95 marketing and release. They also spent 3m (reported between 8m-15m at the time though -- which was massive for its day) on licensing Stones' Start Me Up.And they actually sent some shitty live version which would have avoided paying their old bassist. Jerks. The hype was real though. I can still remember installing the floppy version on one of my first PCs. The first start up was…

This is from and old post on a news group a long time ago and I can't find it anymore, so here's citing from my murky brain:

    Q: Did Microsoft really pay Mick Jagger $3M to license "Start Me Up" by the Rolling Stones during the Windows 95 product launch event?
    A: No. They paid $3M to license only a part of the song. They omitted the lines "You made a grown man cry" and "You made a dead man cum"

Re: How did Windows 95 get permission to put Weezer video 'Buddy Holly' on the CD?

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Post by reddalo »

taysco wrote: post #85

Microsoft went crazy with Windows 95 marketing and release. They also spent 3m (reported between 8m-15m at the time though -- which was massive for its day) on licensing Stones' Start Me Up.And they actually sent some shitty live version which would have avoided paying their old bassist. Jerks. The hype was real though. I can still remember installing the floppy version on one of my first PCs. The first start up was…

I miss that kind of iteration. New OS releases actually meant new technology, better tools, a more refined UX.

How did we end up in a world with Windows 11 and Liquid Glass? So sad.

Re: How did Windows 95 get permission to put Weezer video 'Buddy Holly' on the CD?

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Post by beachy »

randall wrote: post #113
taysco wrote: post #85

Microsoft went crazy with Windows 95 marketing and release. They also spent 3m (reported between 8m-15m at the time though -- which was massive for its day) on licensing Stones' Start Me Up.And they actually sent some shitty live version which would have avoided paying their old bassist. Jerks. The hype was real though. I can still remember installing the floppy version on one of my first PCs. The first start up was…

The last 3 years of LLM progress, to me, feel like 1994-1998.

Agree! I've been computering for 50 years and for me the significant milestones have been:

- rdbms

- PC

- Internet and email

- SaaS

- Mobile

- social media

- LLMs

I doubt that LLMs will be anything like as significant to our futures as social media though. And not in an entirely good way.

Re: How did Windows 95 get permission to put Weezer video 'Buddy Holly' on the CD?

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Post by yetihehe »

taysco wrote: post #85

Microsoft went crazy with Windows 95 marketing and release. They also spent 3m (reported between 8m-15m at the time though -- which was massive for its day) on licensing Stones' Start Me Up.And they actually sent some shitty live version which would have avoided paying their old bassist. Jerks. The hype was real though. I can still remember installing the floppy version on one of my first PCs. The first start up was…

Progress is a little slower this days in hardware, but it's there. Last year I finally assembled a new PC after surviving almosta a decade on my old laptop. The hardware spec jump made me remember old days. 8x more memory, 10x faster disk, 4x more cores and each one 2x faster!!! Gpu has as much memory as my previous laptop after upgrading it! Seeing the cpu usage and temps, also seeing how much data now I can download from net (I also got fiber recently and lan in old laptop was not working) was exhilarating. I can now ask my computer a question and it will respond (but slowly, local llm)!

Re: How did Windows 95 get permission to put Weezer video 'Buddy Holly' on the CD?

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Post by reddalo »

giobox wrote: post #103
barosl wrote: post #102

> Some time ago, I noted that the Windows 95 CD contained a variety of multimedia extras That "some time ago" is 20 years ago. It is crazy that Raymond has been able to consistently write historical yet fun blog posts for decades. What a dedication.

Even longer, 1995 is over 30 years ago now. I remember playing this clip over and over at the time (there wasn't a heck of a lot of digital video clips to play in 95!).

The OP is referring to the original article [1] that Raymond Chen published on his blog, which was posted on January 3rd, 2006 (20 years ago).

[1] https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20060103-52/?p=32...

Re: How did Windows 95 get permission to put Weezer video 'Buddy Holly' on the CD?

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Post by Gud »

randall wrote: post #113
taysco wrote: post #85

Microsoft went crazy with Windows 95 marketing and release. They also spent 3m (reported between 8m-15m at the time though -- which was massive for its day) on licensing Stones' Start Me Up.And they actually sent some shitty live version which would have avoided paying their old bassist. Jerks. The hype was real though. I can still remember installing the floppy version on one of my first PCs. The first start up was…

The last 3 years of LLM progress, to me, feel like 1994-1998.

Except this time there isn’t a strong hacker counter culture.

Where are the greybeards in their flip flops? Where are the teen prodigies?

Everyone is sucking corporate dick, myself included

Re: How did Windows 95 get permission to put Weezer video 'Buddy Holly' on the CD?

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Post by Krutonium »

stavros wrote: post #101
taftster wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm so grateful for flat LCD screens. Man, all those CRT boxes. Yikes. The rest of this video, it doesn't look like the world has changed all that much since 1995. Computing just kind of looks the same. I guess minus the lack of phones in everyone's hands.

And the fact that the UIs are less responsive and have worse UX now.

My UI is pretty responsive. Of course, I also don't run MacOS or Windows, so...

Re: How did Windows 95 get permission to put Weezer video 'Buddy Holly' on the CD?

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Post by anthk »

yetihehe wrote: post #126
taysco wrote: post #85

Microsoft went crazy with Windows 95 marketing and release. They also spent 3m (reported between 8m-15m at the time though -- which was massive for its day) on licensing Stones' Start Me Up.And they actually sent some shitty live version which would have avoided paying their old bassist. Jerks. The hype was real though. I can still remember installing the floppy version on one of my first PCs. The first start up was…

Progress is a little slower this days in hardware, but it's there. Last year I finally assembled a new PC after surviving almosta a decade on my old laptop. The hardware spec jump made me remember old days. 8x more memory, 10x faster disk, 4x more cores and each one 2x faster!!! Gpu has as much memory as my previous laptop after upgrading it! Seeing the cpu usage and temps, also seeing how much data now I can downloa…

To me the jump from my GF's celeron laptop with 2GB to her current 8GB high end Celeron (i5-i7 speeds, almost) and a Intel UHD was as big as a Pentium III 500 with a TNT2 compared to a Pentium 4 with SSE2 and a Geforce 2ti/3. A big jump in very few years from the PIII, for 12 years the gap of the laptop and the current one it's nothing.

By comparison the El Cheapo laptop she bought should have been able to play RTX bound games, and yet we are stuck there. Remember, 12 years it's 2x the time. Except for the GL 2.1 ->Vulkan/GL 4.6 jump and videos from 1080p to 4k, the jump isn't that big. I would expect more. For young HNers, if the progress was like the 90s, in 12 you would buy a laptop for $300 and maybe play an RTX raytraced Quake... virtualized.

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