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"Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

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Re: "Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

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Sorry, i wasn't clear, my bad. You have grifters everywhere, especially in the fringe as when your audience is small, grifting is the best way to make any real amount of money. But when a grifter is caught doing something the public consider bad (SA, but sometime just being caught red-handed stealing money), he either disappear, or grift to the right. No grifter go further left is my point. I think the internationall…

Ah I think i understand. To paraphrase, you're saying that people that are caught tend to take refuge by more rightward grifting. I cannot speak to your specific experience and i don't necessarily disagree. However, I do think there a potential selection bias here because by our media environment. Agree or not, the media believes that Trump is the most horrible person in the world at the moment. So there is a propens…

Yes, exactly, I'm not a native speaker and I have trouble explaining nuances on stuff I've thought about in my mother tongue first.

Agree with the selection bias, that one explanation. A second is that a lot of grifters who were caught now want to get pardoned, so maybe it influence their politics. And the third one is that the society as a whole shifted right, so grifters shifted right. When the pendulum will swing back, maybe grifters will also be shifting back (it doesn't match with Russell Brand/Andrew Tate timing though, but it match quite well with the podcast bro crowd and the Paul brothers).

I also think the age and money factor is also a thing (conservative have more disposable income on average, are older on average, so easier and richer targets). When you get caught grifting your audience will decrease. Concentrating on the richest/oldest is just good business.

Re: "Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

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Man what a PoS this guy was. he started as a lame re-poster >His head was turned by the substantial sum of money: “I told my wife, wow, it’s £1,000.” >Then, to his annoyance, TikTok immediately deleted his account because he was just stealing other people’s videos and reposting them. and dove straight into fabricating hate, and worst of all after directly confronted seems to literally have no concept of what he was d…

It sort of explains something that puzzled me which is why people not from London, especially Americans like Trump and Musk seem to think it's a bit of a hell hole with no go areas and the like. As a London resident, it's not really like that. I guess it's down to stuff like in this article.

Re: "Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

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One objection here: pay-for-sterilization doesn't match with the rest of these because this is treating it solely as a cost to the woman, rather than recognizing that there's a benefit in not bringing a child into a horrible life.

The objection is that offering cash exploits vulnerable women's desperation, treating their reproductive capacity as a commodity to be purchased. Even if the outcome might prevent more suffering, which is an individually subjective outcome, the means matters: it degrades the women involved by reducing a profound personal decision to a market transaction under conditions of coercion, where drug addiction makes the off…

You miss my point--it's the hypothetical child suffering.

Everything else on that list is putting better versions behind a paywall, this is purely removing a negative. They are fundamentally different issues.

Re: "Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

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It's a genuinely surprising feeling to live in a place, but see an absolute torrent of malevolent misinformation about it. The "London has fallen" trope that has been prevalent on social media recently stank of some kind of deliberate manipulation. But increasingly—in part due to stories like this—I wonder if it is actually just all "for the views".

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24 day old account.

Re: "Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

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Only 20!? More like 90 to 95%

Surely you don't believe that, given a random sample of 20 people, 19 of them will be amoral, selfish, and have no values? Surely this doesn't align with your real life experience - what are your colleagues, friends, family, neighbours and acquaintances like? Do they meet this ratio?

It does. It's the #1 reason why western countries are low-trust.

Re: "Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

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I've lived in Chicago and San Francisco, both places also victims of this type of narrative.

I've lived in both places and I think the narrative is a lot more fair, in terms of day-to-day quality of life for, like, the median resident, about San Francisco than it is about Chicago. The narrative about Chicago basically doesn't connect with anybody's experience here unless they live in places like Lawndale or Englewood. San Francisco's problems are broadly shared by every neighborhood.

my neighborhood here (excelsior district) is more or less like a more packed in version of where i grew up (south oak park). Comparing living anywhere in SF to living in Lanwdale or Englewood is absolutely wild, outside of some very isolated neighborhoods.

Re: "Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

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Man what a PoS this guy was. he started as a lame re-poster >His head was turned by the substantial sum of money: “I told my wife, wow, it’s £1,000.” >Then, to his annoyance, TikTok immediately deleted his account because he was just stealing other people’s videos and reposting them. and dove straight into fabricating hate, and worst of all after directly confronted seems to literally have no concept of what he was d…

I would say about 20% of people are like that. Total disregard for common good, maximal selfishness.

And the Trump is the perfect role model/ideal.
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