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Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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post #58

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Xmpp clients are completely awful on Linux desktop, and can't do voice and video chat correctly with clients on Android like Conversations

In addition to Dino, you could use movim as a PWA.

And they are both compatible, unlike Element and ElementX ;)

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#122

Maybe there's a niche for Valve/Steam to step into here. They already have your data, and many people use Discord for gaming related chat.

I've seen a lot of gamers mention this, but I'd wonder why it hasn't happened yet especially as there's a set of gamers that seem to love centralizing on steam already. One massive downside I can see is that the various public social areas of steam like the game forums are already a cesspool (and have been since they were vBulletin based) and I don't see that improving with more users in near real-time chat.

Discord getting used as a knowledge base or download source for some areas is already seen as a convenience for those involved or a single point of failure by many 'outside', I wouldn't want to see more of PC gaming moving to one place.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Tiny nitpick: you actually can pin messages in Signal group chats. It's a pretty recent addition though.

Apart from that, I would have been interested in more details about the author's experience with ~Revolt~ Stoat. To my naive eyes it looks pretty nice. I really like the nuanced takes about the other platforms in this article, so I'd guess the author has some good reasons to dismiss Stoat like that.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#125
post #20

Matrix is the only one that offers the killer feature of Discord, which is being able to join many communities from a single login. Sadly Matrix has never had a good UX for me. IMO they spent too many complexity tokens on e2ee and there are simply not enough left.

The killer feature of discord was always "open this link for our guild voice and let's go into the dungeon". And this is a brand advantage: you can try that with self hosted tools but discord "feels safe" to click.

The only thing TeamSpeak has on it is multi level voice for complex command chains. But you pay for that with enormous sign up friction.

There's no viable frictionless chat alternative. Maybe jitsi. And if you try to make one? You'll get regulated and have to do the same thing.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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I don't understand the appeal of any of those, least of all Discord itself. It's unsearcheable, focused on immediacy, confusing and full of blinking things. The old Reddit interface (or current HN one!) are unsurpassed IMHO.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#127

Maybe there's a niche for Valve/Steam to step into here. They already have your data, and many people use Discord for gaming related chat.

You can already make steam friend group chats, it was just a bit janky when I last used it like 5 years ago

I primarily use Discord but also have a long-running Steam group chat.

Steam group chats are still janky and by no means a Discord replacement. It feels like an MVP that they lost interest in shortly after adding the feature.

It's fine for a couple people with no real need for moderation but beyond that I don't think it's currently viable.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#128
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IRC does not even have offline messages, unless you pay / host a bouncer. Which you first have to know about. I'm not sure if any client has solve this, but what about image / video / file hosting? You can't just drag 'n drop a image into a chat. You have to host it on a 3rd party site and link it. I do wonder how server management is now adays. In Discord you can host your own server with a few clicks and make it ea…

First and foremost, IRC is a protocol. Everything you name here are mostly issues that are not a protocol problem, but client and service issues which can be solved.

But are they solved? In a single combined client.

Otherwise it's not really an alternative. It does not matter if it's technically a protocol. Users don't care about if it's a protocol, IRC clients had over 10 years to catch up.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#129
post #55

One of the main problems in suggesting Discord alternatives is that Discord itself is an amalgamation of several apps. For some a Discord alternative needs to be a voicecall, for others it‘s game streaming, and for others it‘s just a chat, a bulletinboard or newsgroup, while they never used the Voice features.

> We are also currently working on a privacy-focused alternative called Kloak, which is in its very early alpha stage. We would greatly appreciate your feedback on areas for improvement and any expectations you may have for the platform. Doesn't Matrix essentially satisfy all of them? Although the bulletinboard/newsgroup feature is something that I don't know but I feel as if that can be on matrix as well. Yes, I kno…

My only real experience with matrix was joining a community server for some program because I had a problem and couldn't get more info elsewhere. Started off that I couldn't read any past messages, I guess because encryption? Alright, so I asked my question. Come back the next day, and because my browser deletes cookies on close, I couldn't log in because I had no logged in device to confirm the login with, or something like this. Gave up. Maybe there was some recovery codes on sign up that I missed, but I always save those.
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