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Re: The New Collabora Office for Desktop

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This is true I suppose. Google Docs is a bit different. I'm not very familiar with their offerings. Here in the US, most stop using it past grade school and graduate to MS products after, at least in my experience. I don't think it matters since Universities will not be taking Google Doc submissions unless it's core ed classes, any beyond it will be LaTeX anyways.

LaTeX is no longer the king of universities, Word has been for quite some time part of the official templates. https://www.acm.org/publications/authors/submissions And I can tell that while at CERN, those using LaTeX on paper submissions were the minority, on ATLAS TDAQ/HLT group it was a mix of Word, and FrameMaker.

Maybe this is unique to my comp sci program, but all of our final papers in my program were required in LaTeX before graduating in 2023.

Re: The New Collabora Office for Desktop

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First of all, I love LibreOffice very much as the last bastion of sanity in classic document suites, and I love what Collabora is trying to do with the online piece. So, first, a million thanks. Truly. Now, to put on the the "feedback is a gift" and "radical transparency" caps. From the screenshot comparison in TFA: The new one looks all Microsoft-Ribbony. That's a huge step backward. The big strength of LibreOffice…

What's wrong with the ribbon? It's basically a tabbed toolbar. Unlike a menu bar it doesn't cover up content or require extra actions to hide, and it doesn't require precise mouse movement in order to avoid accidentally hiding.

Ribbon vs. classic toolbars is the comparison to be made. (Sorry for saying menubar when I meant toolbar up above; that was probably confusing.)

I'll try to explain the gist of it, since that seems to be the question:

As you say, one facet of ribbons is they are essentially tabs. So, ribbons obscure whatever is on "those other tabs". Often, with additional annoyance of taking more space than needed to show what they do show (which often is not want is needed). And any section within a given tab can have its own peculiar (varied) layouts. (Continuing the "find it in the hierarchy - customized for the purpose to make your life easier the way a designer thought would help!" paradigm.)

Contrast with toolbars. Show the ones you need, customize them if wanted. Icons and locations are quite effective for selecting actions. They can all be seen at once. They do what they say. No constantly interpreting the interface flow to find stuff.

Re: The New Collabora Office for Desktop

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If both remain available options, that's fine. Sometimes the new thing becomes the default, and then the old thing gets dropped.

That is not going to happen with LibreOffice.

Downvote me all you like, this won’t happen.

Re: The New Collabora Office for Desktop

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Hmm. I can't actually find the link to start using it to try it out. ? It offers a Free Demo that is behind some kind of details harvesting form. I don't want a demo. Is this usable enough to move a small (6 people) team away from google sheets ? hard to say since i can't test it and it doesn't say what the cost is. Stop hiding your shit behind hard to navigate/use/privacy invading bullshit. Just let us use the stuff…

On my screen, the words "Download Now" are the biggest on the page.

I see the link now. But there's a hell of a lot of stuff on that page that does not help to be clear, rather the opposite.

Re: The New Collabora Office for Desktop

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Important note OnlyOffice is basically Russian Software. The Company is majority Russian owned. So fuck them

One day I'd like to see people write the same regarding USA software companies. Not defending Russia but pointing out the hypocrisy.

I mean I am European so I do try to remove my reliance on the US step by step but the US used to be an Ally so there is obviously a lot of Software still in use. Just changed my Audiobooks to selfhosted for example. Next goal replacing discord. Idk how well thats gonna go.

Re: The New Collabora Office for Desktop

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Collabora vs LibreOffice branding is always quite confusing to me. How is this project related to LibreOffice and also to what used to be called LibreOffice Online? (And Collabora Office Classic. And Collabora Online)

Also didn’t these guys buy Zetaoffice?

Yes, you're talking about Thorsten Behrens, one of the founders of The Document Foundation. His German company, Allotropia, merged with Collabora Productivity in 2025.
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