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221 Cannon is Not For Sale

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Re: 221 Cannon is Not For Sale

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Post by ivraatiems »

milesvp wrote: post #110
ivraatiems wrote: post #89

I have had people show up at my house to ask if it was for rent, based on a fake post on Facebook using photos from Zillow from before my home was sold. My realtor helped me get the photos taken down, but the Facebook ads for it are up to this day. Facebook completely ignores any and all attempts by me to report this malfeasance -- even though these ads literally have my personal home address on them! It's a huge saf…

I would contact Facebook legal directly with documents showing the problem. Legal’s job is always to minimize liability for the company, and they have levers they can pull in any organization, no matter how “hyper scale” they claim to be. Bonus points for figuring out the correct language to use to imply repercussions for failure to act without any actual threats. Patio11 has written about similarly worded letters wi…

This is good advice and probably an avenue I need to explore, thank you.

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Post by alexjm »

teeray wrote: post #9

Periodic reminder that "identity theft" is the financial system gaslighting you into thinking their poor decisions are your fault.

We don't even need the term "identity theft". We already have a perfectly good word for than: "fraud".

Re: 221 Cannon is Not For Sale

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Post by woah »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #35
teeray wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, but you can still do a confused deputy attack. The fraudster hires a property manager, informs them that they would like to remove the sign because they wish the list the property for sale. Either that or they con a realtor they're working with into doing it. The unknowing realtor, eager for the commission, knows a guy who can take it down.

Who's paying for it? Are they working for free?

The realtor might pay for it or even do it themselves. It would take 5 minutes with a reciprocating saw. Or the scammer tells the realtor "never mind that" and the realtor tells the buyer.

Re: 221 Cannon is Not For Sale

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Post by dandelany »

dizhn wrote: post #118
WarmWash wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>That was likely someone not authorized to work in the US writing random digits on an I9 form. I used to work a job years ago with lots of people who snuck in here. In order to get the job they needed to provide a social. Not having any idea wtf a social security number was, just that they needed one, it was a relief when someone they lived with or met on the street informed them that xyz at location abc will sell yo…

Leaked? Isn't it used in the open basically like for everything including student IDs?

This was once common but is exceedingly rare these days. I'm sure exceptions exist, but nearly all Americans now treat this as a Very Secret Number.

Re: 221 Cannon is Not For Sale

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Post by christophilus »

citizenpaul wrote: post #117
ivraatiems wrote: post #89

I have had people show up at my house to ask if it was for rent, based on a fake post on Facebook using photos from Zillow from before my home was sold. My realtor helped me get the photos taken down, but the Facebook ads for it are up to this day. Facebook completely ignores any and all attempts by me to report this malfeasance -- even though these ads literally have my personal home address on them! It's a huge saf…

Facebook admits around 10% of their ads are fraudulent. I think it's much higher. The scam is even larger than you see and exploits missing children reports. There are huge automated scam networks that post missing children reports then get people to share them. Then once the post/ad gets traction they change it to a listing of a house that is auto pulled from public information. They then use that to scam people. Pl…

What is the point of listing a house that isn’t for sale, though?

Re: 221 Cannon is Not For Sale

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Post by icepush »

christophilus wrote: post #126
citizenpaul wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook admits around 10% of their ads are fraudulent. I think it's much higher. The scam is even larger than you see and exploits missing children reports. There are huge automated scam networks that post missing children reports then get people to share them. Then once the post/ad gets traction they change it to a listing of a house that is auto pulled from public information. They then use that to scam people. Pl…

What is the point of listing a house that isn’t for sale, though?

Probably collecting application fees from people interested in renting it.

Re: 221 Cannon is Not For Sale

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Post by rendx »

labcomputer wrote: post #103
rendx wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> is still going to face the problem of events happening outside its jurisdiction that its records do not and cannot contain Excuse my German ignorance, but my understanding of how it works here is that unless the transfer is notarized, logged and recorded with the local authority, there has not been a legal transfer. So, by that definition of land ownership, no "events outside of its jurisdiction" can take place. An…

Yes, it does sound like typical German bureaucracy to make events like death outside the jurisdiction impossible unless the deceased has obtained prior approval to kick the bucket. :)

Well, I do enjoy the layers of protection implemented here. It sounds like you wouldn't?

The record from the land registry includes things like wayrights for third parties, known ground contaminations, utilities/water/power lines etc. -- all very relevant to me as a potential buyer. I did enjoy the notaries explanations of various aspects, which went beyond reading the contract out loud and making sure we verbally understood what we were going to sign. The process also forces both parties to have written copies of everything prior to the final meeting, which provides another chance to let it sink in and potentially reconsider -- which in our case, we did. Also, they're really trained to verify IDs, not like a random clerk in some liquor store.

I understand one can experience it as "bureaucracy" and "annoyance" in their individual case, but then I wonder how much such people consider the bigger picture and what the benefit of all of it really is, for their own and for societies sake, and what kind of shitshow it would turn into if we got rid of all the "bureaucracy" -- such as described in the very blogpost here.

Even if I (wrongly?) assume I am always on top of things and I will not get ripped off ever, only so-called stupid people will, I really don't need more angry people who fell for scams or made quick decisions that they regret or whose identity got 'stolen' around me/on public streets/in bars. If it was for me, we could add even more such layers of protection, which you seem to see only as "(unnecessary) bureaucracy"?

Re: 221 Cannon is Not For Sale

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Post by groby_b »

dandelany wrote: post #125
dizhn wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Leaked? Isn't it used in the open basically like for everything including student IDs?

This was once common but is exceedingly rare these days. I'm sure exceptions exist, but nearly all Americans now treat this as a Very Secret Number.

LOL.

Every single $&@ doctor's intake form: "We'd like to have you SSN".

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