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Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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post #116

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Except that nobody cares. The Office brand is too large too get killed by Microsoft.

It's already gone. Replaced once with Microsoft 365 and then rapidly and haphazardly by the Copilot name. Only the domain and SEO artifacts remain.

But no normal person cares. Or do you know somebody that talks about using "Copilot"? Most people even just say "Office" when they mean "MS Office". The brand has entered public use, so that it is not for MS to decide its future.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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It seems like a failure in vision from leadership rather than a failure in governance. My understanding is that the company was told from the very top to put AI everywhere and that's exactly what they did.

Why not both? Where I work, there have been a lot of pushback where that BS doesn't make a lick of sense (the crown jewel of BS request atm: "let's put AI in the bootloader"). Good governance "should" also mean that those kinds of pushback are encouraged.

It could have been both for sure. I'm just going off the public info here though and it doesn't seem like the employees failed to do what they were told to do.

In a company as large as MS, I'd never really expect a culture of encouraging pushback from below. They'd just never get anything done and the team culture and morale would likely end up in the tank.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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As a side topic, I wish we still had something like Windows 3.1/95/98, that has a touch of personal usage (focuses on multimedia/gaming instead of business/server). Do you still remember Microsoft Home? My first Windows gaming experience, other than Minesweeper and Solitaire ofc, was the Fury3 demo, which contains only one level from the licensed game, on a Windows 95 Home Entertainment CD. There were also Encarta an…

I love the care and polish that went into the Microsoft Windows XP Welcome/Tour app that played after install. That was the peak of the summit—quality wise.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Too be honest, thres is too much wrong with win 11 to save it at this point. Is not only AI bullshit in my notepad. The excess adds, intrusive online stuff, terriblee performance for basic tasks like the File Explorer or even opening a menu. Making everything a damn web page... One clear example is outlook. Talk wathever you want, outlook, is the indistry standart for e-mail. And while not perfect it was very usefull…

It’s amazing how much worse outlook got and how fast it got so much worse. It also can’t handle screens with different scales, it sometimes inexplicably fails to render an email, printing can produce files of different size - using the web version produces smaller pdfs than the desktop version. I miss thunderbird a lot since the company forced Outlook use and also removed the classic outlook option - or maybe it only…

While I did enjoy thunderbird its lack of hability to use microsoft outlook protocol for e-mail and calendas, always keeped me from use it.

Also, to be honest, I dont trust mozilla anymore than microsoft these days.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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The real issue was never AI in Windows It was AI with no clear user benefit. A Copilot button in Notepad doesn't solve a problem anyone has Good to see them pulling back, but the test will be whether the features they keep actually earn their place in the workflow instead of just being there because someone had a KPI to hit

Notepad had been perfect for 20 years. Morons fucked with it.

I actually liked some of the addictions to notepad, like tabs, reopen files, keeping unsaved files, and the unsaved changes indicator in the tab.

But I think formatting, grammar and ai are going too far for notepad, if I want to do something that need those I would use Word.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Too late, idiots. Just as Windows 10 was being retired, you ran the craziest anti-marketing campaign I've ever seen and successfully coaxed me into switching my daily driver to Linux. Until this year, I've been using windows my ENTIRE life.

I recently started a new role and have to use Windows for work.

I am seriously thinking of looking for another role because it is such a HOG.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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What's concerning isn't that they pushed AI and then walked it back.

What's concerning is that they lack judgment and proper insight into why pushing it in the first place was a bad idea.

If your OS truly is a product, users should not be beta-testers. This isn't an indie kickstarter game.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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The pain of ripping this all out properly is likely too high. Ever since they got the delicious taste of white-labelling chromium instead of fixing ie, another way has been looking better and better: windows 13 or 14 will just be a linux distro

> The pain of ripping this all out properly is likely too high. That is just completely illogical and betrays a complete lack of understanding of how Windows works. Most problems people have with Windows are in the user mode, and not in the kernel. The pain of reverting straightforward UI/UX/vendor-provided application code that is probably version-controlled and tagged for specific historic Windows releases is 'too…

Yeah it’d be crazy to give over control of a core product line to a competitor.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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For people who work in very classified/secure environments (designing weapons systems, rev eng UFO's, etc...) does M$ offer some version of windows without all of the AI crap and bloat?

I think the windows 11 IOT LTSC release is what you're looking for https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-...

No, not the IoT client build, but the Server build with Desktop enabled.
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